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Offline SELECTOR

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P40 excellent
« on: June 14, 2002, 07:40:47 AM »
is this based on the other pic? then the tail needs painting...
But cor. what a bird! excellent job ...we are not worthy

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2002, 07:41:35 AM »
best looker by far

Offline Widewing

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Re: P40 excellent
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2002, 08:33:08 AM »
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is this based on the other pic? then the tail needs painting...
But cor. what a bird! excellent job ...we are not worthy

Yo can't go by the paint schemes found on privately owned aircraft. With few exceptions, those paint schemes are incorrect.

The second photo you posted shows a P-40E painted completely wrong. AVG aircraft never had white and blue bars on the rudder. They never repainted the prop spinners either. Even the basic colors used are incorrect. AVG Tomahawks were painted in standard British camo for the time period.

Superfly's Tomahawk is dead nuts on, right down to seeing the original underside paint line through the shark's mouth. From what I can see in the image Superfly posted, everything is correct.
See the below image, from my article on Erik Shilling.



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Widewing

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Offline K West

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2002, 08:37:22 AM »
Thanks Widwing!

Side note: The P-40 is not a very large aircraft as WWII foghters go. I haven't a prayer of even fitting in one, unlike a P-51, F4U or P-47.  I've always wondered though why the early models were so damn slow when they had that big honking Allison engine out in front pulling a relatively small airframe.

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Offline 4343

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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2002, 10:24:48 AM »
the reason the p40 was slow was about weight and drag (primarily drag)and the fact that while the engine has plenty of power, high altitude performance was poor.  If you notice, most top speeds are at twenty thousand feet or higher, and the p40 lacked a two stage supercharger.  you'll notice that the P51 was this way also until they switched to the merlin, and then WOWEE!  later models of P40's had more powerful engines, but other things added weight, so performance stayed about the same throughout the series.  The drag factor also stayed about the same throughout because the radiator was in the front of the airplane under the engine (many pilots liked this in ground strafing because the troops had trouble hitting it, as apposed to the mustang radiator being under the fuselage).  The wings had no sweep on the front (or very little, im not for certain) unlike on a mustang or other fighter where there is a visible amount of tapering toward the rear (not much, but some), the landing gear had fairings in front, and most of all it was a razor back canopy.  The whole airframe really needed a good cleaning up to add some speed, and why the curtiss engineers never did it is beyond me.

Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2002, 10:59:31 AM »
"The whole airframe really needed a good cleaning up to add some speed, and why the curtiss engineers never did it is beyond me."

They did.  It's called the XP-40Q.    While it was a massive improvement over the earlier P-40's (it could do around 420 MPH), it was still not as good as either the P-51 pr P-47 and never saw production.

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Offline Vipermann

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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2002, 11:06:13 AM »
Here's the one that was at the MAAM in Reading
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2002, 11:54:34 AM »
Very nice. I like the detail on the mesh on the screen shot.