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Offline MANDOBLE

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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2002, 01:52:09 PM »
Agree, but consider that the figures you see in the AH charts are for 100% fuel 190 and 100% fuel for P51. So the common P51 with 50% may surprise you in climb and acceleration.

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2002, 01:54:44 PM »
Yup, not saying it shouldn't, just that it DOES, 100% fuel I think the 190 would zoom better.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2002, 04:02:03 PM »
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 look here party boy Im running a 56k modem so until about 12:00 am, im target practice for other fighters so I run bombers mostly,


Don't blame your 56K connect for your woes, many of us are on dial-up and would welcome connects in the 40-50K range. I'm stuck on a 26.4 line and have no problems killing and having fun :D

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2002, 05:56:59 PM »
No Poppysead, I get my thrills to check and see if your actually someone new to the game or if your just an alias someone has setup on the BBS to spew the same old tired crap.

So whats your ID?

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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2002, 06:13:57 PM »
it does not have 25 minutes of flight
I flew one for almost and hour. :o :p :mad:

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2002, 08:39:54 PM »
i have killed 3 lala7's and been killed once

          killed 3 nikis , been killed by 6 times.....hmmmmm

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2002, 08:40:34 PM »
He said it was 'paladintank' Verm.

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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2002, 09:00:47 PM »
This thread from a guy that wants to ban the N1K2-J.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2002, 09:21:12 AM »
Just looked at my stats once.

7-0 against la7

4 kills in f6f
3 kill in spit 9

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2002, 11:07:38 AM »
La7's have two altitude bands to fly in, too high and too low.  

The first comprises everything over 9K because above that they no longer have WEP.  The La7 actually slows down over 9K and the climb rate falls away badly. The G10, 190D9, P-51 and even the C/D-Hogs get faster than an La7.  Plus the fact that the icon "La7" spooks everyone into chasing you like a perk plane.

The second altitude is too low, anything under 5K because you almost can be sure that every enemy you meet is going to be above you and will be able to dive in to catch you with little problem, even in a Zeke.  20mph of top end speed doesn't mean squat to someone with 2K of alt advantage on you... it just means they'll dive in and catch your sorry butt.

Too many of the "perk the La7" crowd are dedicated TnB'rs on the deck and are frustrated when an La7 rips through the pile of them and shoots a couple of them down.  I just don't get it.  It's a good plane, no doubt, but no powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination.  I love to fly the La7 because I love ripping up all the dumb N1K and Spit pilots who are circling away endlessly @ sealevel.  I know that high Pony's will eventually show up though and chase me outta there.

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2002, 11:20:20 AM »
I checked my Ki-61 status.

Tour 27:
Hermit has 10 kills and has been killed 0 times in the Ki-61 against the La-7.

La-7 is uber plane, but newbie often will get shot down.

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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2002, 11:42:19 AM »
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I checked my Ki-61 status.

Tour 27:
Hermit has 10 kills and has been killed 0 times in the Ki-61 against the La-7.

La-7 is uber plane, but newbie often will get shot down.

-Hermit


Likewise, 13/0 against La-7.

People need to take the time to learn how to beat it, that's all. Like anything else, you only get out of it what you put in to it.

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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2002, 11:59:16 AM »
La7 pilots are mostly greens. Wait for them to learn how to use the monster to beat any other plane ...

If you think this has some kind of relation with K/D:

614 kills vs 443 deaths against F6F
780 kills vs 639 deaths against SpitIX
27 kills vs 24 deaths against the uber SpitXIV

A total K/D of 1.29, not bad for a prime newbie ride.

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2002, 12:23:06 PM »
I find the La7 a nuisance more than anything.  Its speed and acceleration allow it to gain seperation quickly, putting it out of snapshot range faster than just about anything else except the 262.  I rarely run into an aggressive La7 that lives for very long, leaving instead the cherry pickers who could do what they're doing in just about any plane.  Their success or failure flying this way in an La7 is merely coincidental, an artifact of flying style rather than plane choice.

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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2002, 12:23:45 PM »
Mandoble,  I disagree with your two points.  Firstly, I disagree that most La7 pilots are newbies.  I think the La7 would frustrate the average green pilot because of the quirks that go along with the La7.  Sure, it is fast at sea level, but that's all it has going for it.  A green pilot will have far more success TnB'ing in a Spit or N1K than in an La7.  The green pilot is more likely to try and TnB in the La7 and find themselves quickly dead to a Spit or N1K.

Secondly, I disagree that the La7 is uber.  It is really a 1 trick pony, low level speed.  It has little if anything else going for it.  It isn't a good turner, it is maybe around average, it has aweful guns, poor view from the cockpit, bad stall characteristic, short range, etc etc etc... the list goes on and on.

Any good pilot can easily beat an La7 because you almost always know that it will be below you and you can dive in on it.  The only time it is dangerous is if you are trying to run away at sea level and it bounces you, in which case it can be difficult/impossible to escape.  It is easy to beat if you understand it.

The only people I know that have real success in the La7 are experienced pilots.

This whole thread was just a troll anyway.... the day they perk the La7 is the same day that both P-51 variants, the 190D9 and G10 all get perked too.  That'd just leave the Typhoon as the big unperked speed demon and people would start crying about the uber Typhoon.

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