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Offline BigGun

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I'm really disgusted :(
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2002, 02:57:14 PM »
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Resets are fine, constant 2:1 situation is not.

Airstarts wont fix that. We need something else.


Define WE? AH Community in general or the few people posting they have a problem with current system?

Offline ZXMAW

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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2002, 03:05:19 PM »
Bish have always had the most #'s and the most resets ( some rook aided)because they (IMO) are the most organized.. Rooks at one time had MANY more #'s than us Knights. Rooks have ganged Knights plenty in the past.  . Rooks are tough customers when the want to be, find out when and why. I really don't feel to sorry for you.
KNIGHTS used to suck but one day we decided to get organized and it came in the form of mission planning. Knight leaders stepped up to the challange by creating missions and missions created winners. Missions are not always appropriate but, because so many have been successfull we have gained members. Not just some of your squads or the many Perk hunters who like to take advantage of large groups taking bases but the ones who really matter, your team oriented people. People who used to just like to fly around and get kills are now becoming more intrested in the ultimate goal of this game..taking bases. You may even find them doing something they themselves never thought they would do... flying a goon.   hehe  Even tho the game and it's maps are set up for basetaking that doesn't mean that's the only way to have fun here. If you have to many Perk Hunters and not enough that care about the real objective's in the game then you will lose as a country every time.

 Rooks, ask yourselves when you do the best, when you have the most #'s and on which days do you take the most bases.  (Hint)
 It's on your squad nights when a few squads are having them at the same time. Sunday I believe is when you have the best turn out and get your best results.
 Take more bases as a team and you will get more members in your country... Oh, and hit the Bish Hard once in a while.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2002, 04:16:43 PM by ZXMAW »

Offline ZXMAW

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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2002, 03:18:09 PM »
After reading what i wrote I think i should have replaced the word selfish for a more politically correct term ..perk hunters.
Having fun the way you want to have fun in this game should be your own personal goal.


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« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2002, 05:38:47 PM »
Bunch of WHINERS.........and wieners:D   W(ho)T.F.C(ares)!  Just play for the fun of watching a bunch of whiners squeak at a bunch of wieners!:D :D   I love this game!:p

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« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2002, 06:26:30 PM »
>>beacuse i feel soory for those poor Rooks <<

Don't need yer sympathy, just go fight the other guys :)
The sorry part is not fighting the other guys because they will give you a fight. The easy way isn't always the best way
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Offline Don

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« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2002, 06:38:00 PM »
I tell ya I resent this thread. It gives the impression that Rooks are whining about being ganged, and that is the only focus. Well it isn't. I fly Rook and don't want your sympathy or your pissant responses telling a Rook to stop whining. Or the pat answers stating everybody gets in the tank every now and then...
Piss off. ;)
I say come on with it. I can also say from the Rook point of view that it's damned tired that the Bish will not fight the Nitwits, or vice versa. I can also say that both of them will always attack Rooks regardless of numbers; its what the dweebs do.
So, take it from this Rook; bring it on. But please don't challenge me to a duel like a sap when you finally achieve that all important rank which makes you think you are hotchit; I ain't interested. Fly fight and whip my bellybutton but, don't pat yerselves on the back and think yer doing something because, I'm comin back, and you won't find a better fight anywhere.
Take that and chew on it:cool:

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« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2002, 06:42:22 PM »
Nitwits still suck :D

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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2002, 07:54:36 PM »
This charge that the Knights and bishops do not fight each other is funny.  I wondered if the other teams saw that a lot.  Here on the Knights there are always people complaining that the bishops and rooks dont fight each other!  I have always thought that that was pretty much baloney, and I suspected that each team probably thinks it is fighting both of the others and that the other teams arent fighting each other.   Now I know its true.  If you dont believe me, switch to the Knights for about 10 minutes sometime when we are losing a reset, and you will see plenty of complaining about how the other two sides are ganging up on us.  Remember, just because you cant see the other two sides fighting doesnt mean that they arent.  

Now of course if the two sides have a similar number of bases, and the 3rd team is down to <10 or so, of course the two strong teams are going to both try to reset the weak team.  This is natural, and its also natural that many people are going to log off from the weak team or switch sides in frustration, because its not any fun to lose like that.  However, its the nature of the game and couldnt be fixed without doing away with base capture aspects of the game.  Also, its not as uneven as it sounds sometimes.  If say the rooks have 30 people on and they have only 3 bases left, they could defend each base with 10 people.  The other two teams may have 60 people each, but when you consider that many of those are fighting each other, and that they are on the offense so they have to fly longer to get to the target,  the actual numbers at the fighting area arent as lopsided as they might appear at first glance.  The real unbalancing factor is the fact that in this situation, the attacking fighters enter with much more altitude and the fight tends to work its way closer to the ground as time progresses, leaving the defenders low when bombers arrive to pork the field.  Thats just the way the game works though and there is nothing wrong with that.  If you dont like that, play as a team and dont let your team get down to only a few bases.  

The best way to help numbers on a team in my experience is to win a few resets.  This will attract people from the other sides because there are always some people that want to be on the winning team more than anything else.  Personally, I have developed quite a strong attachment to the Knights, and  I wouldnt consider switching if we only had 10 players during peak hours, and lost every reset in 45 minutes.  Thats just because I have always played Knights, and most of my friends are there and Ive built a loyalty to the Knights just like I have loyalties to certain sports teams.  Winning resets isnt as hard as you might think either.  You would be surprised how few people it takes working together to really make a difference in the game.  You might think that 4 people couldnt impact the game, but if you get 4 decent pilots together with the goal of  winning a reset and you have a few hours to play, you can really turn things around if you know what you are doing.  

Dont berate the rest of your team for not caring, just plug away with the few people you have and make missions.  Dont complain if turnout is low.  Well planned missions dont need huge numbers to capture fields if you do it right (timing is everything).  After you start capturing a few fields, people will jump on the bandwagon.  Remember, all those people that are furballing that are making you so mad are tying down an equal number of the other team that are furballing as well.  Let the furballers have fun their way, and those of us that like to win can have fun ours.  Thats the beauty of AH, the fact that lots of very different people that like to do very different things, can all find something they have fun doing here.  

You CAN turn around a bad situation if a few people work hard at it.  Case in point,  I logged on the other night and the Knights had the least numbers, rooks had the most and bishops  were in close 2d place for numbers.  The rooks also had the most bases, bishops were second, and Knights had 6.  There were a few people making missions, and about 10 people or so that were joining them.  Within 2 hours, the knights were up to 18 bases and what had looked like a certain loss and reset was looking very good.  Almost right away the number situation started to shift once we started capturing bases.  The rooks lost numbers almost every time they lost a base.  Pretty soon, they had least number of players and bases.  The bishops were still winning when i logged, but Knights were catching up fast.  

Bottom line is,  whining isnt going to attract people to your team, but winning might, so go out and try to win some, but remember, if your not having fun your doing something wrong.

Offline Don

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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2002, 08:43:59 AM »
>>Bottom line is, whining isnt going to attract people to your team, but winning might, so go out and try to win some, but remember, if your not having fun your doing something wrong.<<


Save it. This may be good, insightful advice fer what ails yer team but Rooks don't need it.
As to the whines, yeah Rooks have their share of em but, they do not represent all of Rookdom. I find your remarks condescending and unhelpful :D I suggest you copy them and save them though because, yer side will need them again.
I'll see you and yours in the next battle when Rooks are fighting a two front war.
No need denying it, it happens on a daily basis....laugh that one off :D

Bring it on...talk is cheap.

Offline mrsid2

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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2002, 08:55:46 AM »
"The best way to help numbers on a team in my experience is to win a few resets. This will attract people from the other sides because there are always some people that want to be on the winning team more than anything else."

Man I haven't seen anything that retarded in a while.

Show me how youre going to win reset with 30 players against 60+60 enemy and I'll give you a medal.

"Remember, all those people that are furballing that are making you so mad are tying down an equal number of the other team that are furballing as well."

D'oh.. 25 players furballing against 120 leave still 95 players to defend the fields. Even if the enemy fights eachothers there are easily 20 players free for field defence at any time. You're welcome to try it out.

Field capture at those odds are only possible when the two big enemies are having a full battle at some field, enabling you to sneak capture. If you're already defensive, capture is not possible from any field.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2002, 09:04:29 AM by mrsid2 »