Author Topic: IL2 Now has Dedicated OC3 servers up.  (Read 532 times)

Offline BUG_EAF322

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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2002, 04:06:53 PM »
"Online gaming may get pretty interesting soon"

is it ?

it's been interesting since 1.02 for me

i like il 2 but never play it as much anymore since i'm online again
why ? it aint got my favourite planes.
the view system sucks also

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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2002, 04:19:49 PM »
no MMOG...      'bout does it for me.


er.. I mean..   fer me.. sorry HB

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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2002, 04:53:55 PM »
Not sure about numbers, I haven't checked it out too much as I like the single player better, but 32 sounds right. Just imagine it's like the CT, but with 30 more players.

BUG, the view system sucks till you map it. Then it's outstanding, bare the argument of the limited 6 view. Mouse look, off a Saitek throttle is awesome, padlock works well too. I hated it till I sat down and figured it out. You haven't I'm guessing.

Don, your not clever or interesting.

Skuzzy, I don't know what a OC3 is, but I think this is just a free feature they are providing as a bonus, not some $60K mmog business. Maddox business booming? I'd say so. And I bet in 2 years this Oleg guy is going to be wealthy indeed. If he came out of the gate with Il-2 to win every award for a sim, I can't wait to see what's next.

I would prefer these posts be OffTopic though. It's distracting from the  pressing "I lost a good friend from a anal probe poll" and "I got gangbanged and you stole my kill" posts here.

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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2002, 05:07:51 PM »
lol

agree about the view system

lol

he will be rich.. I hear that.. would love to see it MMOG tho

transfer this thread to OT damnit!

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2002, 07:18:10 PM »
OC3 = 3 DS3's (3 x 45Mb/s) and it costs about $60K per month to have one of those.  So they give away the access and are eating that amount each month with no provisions for having multiple backbone connections when it goes down, and it will go down from time to time.  Seems to me it would have been smarter to have 3 DS3's to different backbones than one OC3, but what do I know.
As a business man, I would be hard pressed to throw away money like that which has little revenue in return.  Yes, they buy the game but that is a one shot purchase, there is no recurring revenue from that one time purchase.  

Like I said, must be nice.
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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2002, 08:40:35 PM »
Two words.

Russian Mafia.

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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2002, 08:51:44 PM »
I see your point Skuzzy, but mebbe they have plans to go into the MMOG bisness. (I have no insider info one way or the other)

But having looked at thier Lock-On webpage and their ground war (addon) for Il2 it seems they kinda headed in that direction.

I'm sure alot of Europeans would like something that doesn't require Translantic access to connect to.

At any rate I feel it's kinda poor taste for jbroey3 to repeatedly post IL2 info in the Gen Discussion Forum when he should use the O Club forum to advertize for a competitor's game.

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« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2002, 04:16:58 AM »
Milnko, I did not know that, if they head in that direction that would explain allot.

jbroey3  is a name a few recognize, I don't. Don’t care either.

Still, it’s good flightsim discussion, the Off Topic Forum must support?

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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2002, 08:21:53 AM »
It is very possible they are going into the MMOG market, but not with IL2 in its current state.  They would have to turn down a number of the graphic features to do so, as it takes a significant CPU to run it right now in full graphics mode.
What does not make sense to me, is installing an OC3 long before you are ready to go into the MMOG business and only having one dedicated connection if indeed you are going into a pay to play service.
I think it more likely they are sharing an OC3 through an ISP.  There are too many contridictions here that simply do not make sense.
For a pipe that big, you have to make a minimum of a one year committent.  That is a 3/4 million dollar committment.  How many 32 player servers would they need to cover that cost and at what price point?  If they dumb down the graphics for MMOG purposes, would anyone pay to play then?  I really think if Maddox had intended for IL2 to be MMOG, they would have rolled it out that way.  Retrofitting a game to be MMOG is usually a very bad move due to the perception already built into the heads of the owners of the game.  Of course, when CPU's are twice the speed they are today, then IL2 in its full glory may be MMOG capable.

My personal perception is either this jbroey is blowing smoke up someones dress or Maddox has lost his mind.  I really do not think Maddox is nuts and jbroey has yet to respond to any questions I have asked, so,...well ,...I think you cat see my opinion in here.  There may be an OC3, but I doubt it is dedicated and infact may only be a burstable OC3, which would make far more sense.

By the way, where is this OC3 connected anyways?  Who is the backbone provider?  Who is the ISP?  Is Maddox running this themselves?  Just curious about these things.  I am not impressed with a pipe to the Internet.  I am more interested with who is managing and maintaining that pipe as that will ultimately dictate the quality of service.
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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2002, 10:26:42 AM »
ground war 'addon' for il2???? where... only thing i've seen is screens of a WW2 Real Time Strategy game... (aka starcraft) from Oleg


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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2002, 12:28:42 PM »
They sure redid the FM in 1.04.

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« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2002, 07:35:48 PM »
OC3?

Yeah right. Someones smoking monkey crap. The traceroute for the LOMAC and Il-2 webpages lead back to the same provider of the servers.

I think somone read "dedicated" and appended the highest connection he could think of.

It is a nice pipe, but I don't think it's even a ds3 never mind 3. While Oleg has commented several times on his wish to someday make a MMOG he has an add-on and another flight sim project to finish first- alltogether he's pretty much committed for 2-3 years after you include the support he planned to give Il-2 (which was planned to become profitable over 2-3 business quarters from what I understand).

Oleg provides great support for a Box game I have to say- and he's improved the benchmark MSCFS will have to jump over. But he's probably not more than periphally interested in making a long term commitment to a MMOG. I mean really, the probably wants to make money in this lifetime :D