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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2002, 02:47:13 AM »
Weazel, it's the usual strawman defense :)

Fact:
A is very bad.

Counter:
"Well, B is even worse!"

Does that make A good? :).

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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2002, 02:51:25 AM »
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I would rather die than bear the dishonor of having that popsicle as my Commander in Chief.


You going to go Alec Baldwin on us and claim that was taken out of context?


Santa when presented as a choice, yes that makes A very good indeed.

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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2002, 06:29:47 AM »
How about Hillary for pres and Gore for VP <-again
LOL
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2002, 06:48:41 AM »
You going to go Alec Baldwin on us and claim that was taken out of context?

I don't get it......

Let me put it in black and white.

If they reinstated the draft and my number was called I would fight to the death before submitting to the disgrace of having chimpy as my CINC, he isn't fit to command a rubber ducky bath tub fleet....much less the US Armed Forces.

Put a decent and honorable man in the White House and I have no problem with reentering the armed forces, chimpy is neither.

At least he served in some capacity



Yeah, but he didn't show up for at least a year of his commitment.

At the least he is a deserter, and in time of war deserters are shot.

Too bad it was the "enlightened" seventies, if it had been during WW II he would have been disgraced and imprisoned...or shot.

In terms of magnitude chimpys crime is much worse than Clintons.

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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2002, 08:05:27 AM »
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Eh? Where's the logic in that? Eliminate Clinton, abolish any opposition to Bush and he wins hands down.

Fancy that!


Most elections in the states have 2 party canidates. Every now and then a 3rd party canidate comes by and drains off some of the votes from one or the other party. Midnight is semi-correct in that 3 weeks before the actual election a poll did say that some democrats were planning on voting for Peot. Exit polls tell a different story, very few (dems) voted for the 3rd party canidate.

It is pretty well known that Ross had a personal grievence against the Bush family and aimed most if not all of his resources at hurting Bush Sr.  I stick by my statement that Perot cost Bush the election.

         Clinton   Bush     Perot
            (DEM)     (REP)    (IND)  
United States         43.0      37.4     18.9

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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2002, 08:54:47 AM »
Had the liberal press (Make no mistake, it IS liberal!) done its' investigative homework back in 1992 the country might have been spared the foibles and scandals of the Clinton administration.

While he was no doubt innocent of some of things he was accused of, Clinton's character was tainted by the political background that he came from.  Namely, the good-old-boy system of Arkansas politics.  The Democratic Party has controlled the General Assembly of Arkansas without interruption since the end of Reconstruction.  One hundred twenty-eight years of one party rule is not a good thing.  For the first ninety years of that period they maintained control through the use of Jim Crow.  For the last 35, they've maintained control by presenting themselves as the friends of the poor, the neglected, and the comman man.  
After 128 years of such enlightened leadership Arkansas still ranks near the bottom of the 50 states in almost every category that matters.

You don't maintain such control by accident.  Arkansas' political history is replete with instances of election officials tampering with ballots, back-stabbing, and abuse of power to cover up scandals.  No Democratic leader would allow one of his own to be dragged through the mud of scandal if he could help it. (He may be the scum of the earth, but he's OUR scum!)  Clinton was deeply mired in this good-old-boy system.

In 1990, in his last election campaign for Governor before the start of his first presidential campaign, Clinton found himself losing ground in the polls to his Republican challenger.  Sheffield Nelson was a former Democrat who Clinton had once appointed to head a regulatory commission.  The gas company that it regulated later closed its offices in Little Rock and relocated to Texas.  Business and political leaders demanded an investigation to determine if Nelson had encouraged the company to move its offices in return for unnamed favors. This happened in 1986 I believe, although I don't remember for certain.  A subsequent investigation by the State Government cleared Nelson of any wrong-doing.  Case closed.

Or it should have been.  As I said, in 1990 Clinton was losing ground in the polls to Nelson, who stood a good chance of unseating him in the election in November.  Two weeks before election day, Clinton had some of his "boys" in the attorney general's office reopen the investigation of Nelson.  This was done to the accompaniment of splashy television and newspaper coverage.

A former editor of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper, John Robert Starr, who up until that time had been a Clinton supporter, asked him in a telephone conversation if he understood the meaning of the phrase "abuse of power."  According to Starr, Clinton just laughed.

From that point on, Starr no longer counted himself as a Clinton supporter.

I'll not mention his sexual scandals, because that ground has been gone over so many times that the grass has been beaten flat.  But suffice it to say that the Monica Lewinsky scandal caught no one in Arkansas by surprise.


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"In terms of magnitude chimpys crime is much worse than Clintons"
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2002, 09:09:11 AM »
yea right :rolleyes:
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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2002, 09:22:42 AM »
Your thought process is seriously screwed up if you think lying about a blow job is more serious than desertion in time of war.

Chimpy is a disgrace to the office he holds.

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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2002, 09:37:11 AM »
My point, weazel, is that if you don't want to sound like an idiot stop saying idiodic things.

You say you wish you were dead, who are we to stop you?  Or were you just foaming at the mouth again?

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« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2002, 09:47:35 AM »
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Your thought process is seriously screwed up if you think lying about a blow job is more serious than desertion in time of war.

Chimpy is a disgrace to the office he holds.


psst, me thinks your thought process is "seriously screwed up" if you hold a higher regard for slick willie than GW

Slick's crimes go much deeper than head from a fat chick in the highest office in the land - though that should have gotten him thrown out and would have if he was a Republican, guess they don't expect more out of a handsomehunkcrat

Clinton wouldn't even put on the uniform, he was busy dodging the draft in Russia in the middle of the cold war .. but you keep "hating" Bush. You have about 6.5 more years too :)
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« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2002, 09:59:21 AM »
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Originally posted by Fatty
My point, weazel, is that if you don't want to sound like an idiot stop saying idiodic things.



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Med----ication, what a way to go!
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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2002, 10:20:05 AM »
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..snip.. Midnight is semi-correct in that 3 weeks before the actual election a poll did say that some democrats were planning on voting for Perot. Exit polls tell a different story ...snip...  I stick by my statement that Perot cost Bush the election.

                        Clinton   Bush     Perot
            (DEM)     (REP)    (IND)  
United States                   43.0      37.4     18.9


While there is room for debate, it is not a forgone conclusion that Bush would have won. And the exit poll data DID NOT show a significant change from the polls taken 3 weeks prior to the election.

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Political scientists and practioners have vigorously debated the role of Ross Perot in Clinton’s victory. Exit polls showed that Perot’s voters apparently split their preferences between Clinton and Bush nearly equally, although approximately a third of them likely would not have voted without him (Perot) on the ballot.

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Nice try fat boy.....
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2002, 10:47:02 AM »
You say you wish you were dead, who are we to stop you?

Where did say "I wish I were dead", or do you say that because I refuse to demean myself by recognizing him as my CINC?

It takes a hell of a lot better man than chimpy to make me bow down.

Yeah rip, you need some meds...maybe your wife can arrange some for you?  :rolleyes:

Attack me all you like, it still doesn't make chimpy a good president, much less a man.

Eagler the only thing lower than a deserter is a child molester, AFAIK bubba was neither one, chimpy on the other hand........

You republicans are a funny lot, at least I have principles and am willing to declare and stand by them, you guys change direction like the wind blows.

George Orwell would have loved chimpy and his collection of liars and thugs, the title of his book should have been 2002 instead of 1984.

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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2002, 10:59:53 AM »
If I was a true republican thru and thru, would I have voted for two Democrats on the last ballot?  I don't think so.  I vote the issues, not the party.  Just happens that 80% of the issues I agree with fall in the Elephant party.  Hell, if this was 1950, I'd be voting Dem...but as my father-in-law (whos 75) says.."I didn't leave the Democratic party, it left me!".