Author Topic: So much for "undecided" (Read 842 times)

vorticon · « **Reply #15 on:** May 08, 2002, 01:32:48 PM »

school uniforms HA they do that students walk out and dont come back till they change policy simple as that

and yes my future is all planned out

Maverick · « **Reply #16 on:** May 08, 2002, 01:47:58 PM »

Graduation is to mark what you have already accomplished, not what you intend to do. These administrators need to be sent on a time out and denied permission to attend graduation. What a bunch of morons with faulty "reasoning".

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #17 on:** May 08, 2002, 01:50:35 PM »

What Maverick said.

You graduated FROM high school not to college.
-SW

Eagler · « **Reply #18 on:** May 08, 2002, 02:17:00 PM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
What Maverick said.

You graduated FROM high school not to college.
-SW

two ways to look at the word:
Main Entry: grad.u.ate
Pronunciation: 'gra-j&-"wAt
Function: verb
Etymology: Medieval Latin graduare, from Latin gradus step, degree
Date: 15th century
Inflected Form(s): -at.ed; -at.ing
transitive senses

:to grant an academic degree or diploma to b : to be graduated from

and/or

: to admit to a particular standing or grade
intransitive senses
1 : to receive an academic degree or diploma
2 : to pass from one stage of experience, proficiency, or prestige to a usually higher one

"civil libertarians are calling the new policy elitist" is garbage.

It won't last as it is "to hard" on our soft youth of today...

midnight Target · « **Reply #19 on:** May 08, 2002, 02:47:40 PM »

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With a jump from 54% to 95% (some of which I'm sure are bogus), I'd say it seems to be working..

Hitler made the trains run on-time too.

midnight Target · « **Reply #20 on:** May 08, 2002, 02:50:17 PM »

c'mon GOPites......Where are your "Get Big Government out of my hair" Republiclown values? This is the same kind of meddlesome crap the conservatives love to rant against.

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 08, 2002, 03:01:49 PM »

"...cannot take part in graduation ceremonies unless their future plans include college, military service or trade school."

This is the problem. The child who wants to work in the family business or already has an IT job lined up are not allowed to participate.

Samm · « **Reply #22 on:** May 08, 2002, 03:13:12 PM »

Which catagory does smoke pot, drink booze and try not to get anybody pregnant fall under ?

Oh wait that's all of them .

Kieran · « **Reply #23 on:** May 08, 2002, 03:14:12 PM »

More from the "Other Side"...

What you guys don't realize is oftentimes state funding is in part based upon graduation rates and college bound students. In short, it "looks better" for the school to be "sending" more students to college. I see this rule as nothing more than a blatant attempt to inflate a stat for "school improvement" purposes.

Let me give you a for instance- our school corporation is currently involved in a stated-mandated self-improvement process. We are required to meet three target goals, one of which is school environment. We are required to assess our environment, target problems, generate plans to bring about improvement, then quantify that improvement. So, how do we do that? Take attendance as an example. Schools lose money when students have poor attendance- that's a fact. How do you bring attendance up at the high school level? Why, you cull kids out of the middle schools that are problems and redirect them to "alternative programs", of course. Attendance percentages go up, school saves money. Incidentally, this doesn't hurt your graduation rate, either. Too bad for the kids in the "alternative schools" though.

College-bound percentages (as mentioned before) also affect the money a school receives. What do we do? We create what we call "Core 40" and push kids we believe are college bound into them. We of course steer them away from arts, music, business, and PE (those are the "dumb kid" classes). This may sound fine in concept, but ultimately the students wind up in classes that are no more worthy in terms of college prep what the student would otherwise have taken, while life-skill classes are ignored. It totally ignores the fact many kids can't or won't go to college no matter what, yet they are going to get shortchanged in order to help boost the school's "college-bound" numbers.

You are right to be suspicious of a school's stats on any topic. Schools play games because of the pressure to do so from big government mandates that are unrealistic or outright foolish. There are plenty of people making decisions about the way public shools work that have no idea what their ideas will do in the real world. Too many chiefs, not enough indians.

Udie · « **Reply #24 on:** May 08, 2002, 03:33:26 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
c'mon GOPites......Where are your "Get Big Government out of my hair" Republiclown values? This is the same kind of meddlesome crap the conservatives love to rant against.

Well Im not against this because I'm conservative, but this is exactly the kind of crap that makes me a conservative. These kids have toiled for 12+ years to get to this moment. Only to be told that because they aren't conforming to what some idiotic school board thinks they should do with the rest of their lives they have to miss the one thing they've been working for their whole lives. Boy how I'd love to be a senior w/ like a 3.5+ GPA w/ no plans for military or college.

I'd show up to graduation and start praying and thanking God

I hate frivolous lawsuits but these kids should form a class action lawsuit against the school district and make them redo graduation so that everybody who graduated gets the ceremony. Man what a bucnh of Orwellian BS.....

Get em indoctrinated young and they'll conform for the rest of thier lives.......

What ever happened to liberty?

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Word up on what Keiren posted.

Samm · « **Reply #25 on:** May 08, 2002, 03:56:23 PM »

Word Udie .

"Johnny aspired to join the military after graduation and be a green beret . However due the regimentation in his formulative years he was judged to be too "conventional of thought" by the cadre at SFAS and was subsequently not selected to wear the green beanie."

Johnny did well in the ranks of the regular army however . He retired a man embittered toward youth, and saw nothing wrong with mandatory uniforms in public schools .

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #26 on:** May 08, 2002, 03:59:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Udie

I'd show up to graduation and start praying and thanking God

Hey Udie, If you graduated from High School I would fall to my knees and pray too because it would confirm the existance of miracles...either that or how incredibly low the standards have become for graduation.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #27 on:** May 08, 2002, 04:19:54 PM »

Eagler, I do not understand what you mean by "too hard on today's soft youth"?

If you think going to college is too hard on today's soft youth, then I got news for you. There are many more college bound high schoolers today than there were 15 years ago. The colleges are becomming overcrowded and many students are put on waiting lists... sometimes to be told they won't be accepted until the following semester and end up going to community college.

So, what exactly is "too hard on today's soft youth"?
-SW

Gadfly · « **Reply #28 on:** May 08, 2002, 05:10:58 PM »

Actually, Musolinni made the trains run on time, Hitler just assured that all the seats were full(one way tickets, of course).

Gadfly · « **Reply #29 on:** May 08, 2002, 05:13:41 PM »

Also, Wulfie, the universities are crowded because it takes 6 years to graduate-the first 2 years are to teach you what you should have learned in high school.