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Offline Widewing

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How does HTC manage a profit?
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2002, 12:48:44 AM »
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Staga....

Perhaps he didn't mean to imply that, just is how I took it based on his previous track record. Perhaps I should not stand in judgement over him and just go on vacation....what ya think?:)


Your problem is that you took your lead from the Lazs Monkey, instead of thinking for yourself. Rather than take your cue from that witless lightweight, perhaps you should have read my post with an open mind.

In summary, what I was, and am saying is: Based upon the simple calculation of 5,000 subscribers only, and based upon what I imagine their monthly expenditures could be, the HTC staff probably doesn't earn anywhere near what they deserve based upon the quality of their product, and the monumental effort they must expend to keep it at the top of the heap. Indeed, It is probably more a labor of love, with personal income coming in second to the satisfaction of doing what they love, and doing it so well. Moreover, their ability to improve the product, while still able to make capital improvements is a likely indicator that the HTC staff invests a considerable portion of their profit right back into their business. Their business management skills are remarkable, in my estimation.

Now, if you can find anything in that to bellyache about then I must assume that you are looking for a pissing contest. Fine, I'm content to play that game. However, if you prefer to accept my comments within the spirit and context of which they were written, then we drop it here, no harm done.

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Widewing
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Re: How does HTC manage a profit?
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2002, 01:23:49 AM »
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I was wondering how HTC manages to get by financially month by month, based upon the obvious income from subscribers.

Even if there were 5,000 subscribers paying $15 monthly, that still only adds up to $75,000. Figuring in salaries and overhead, where do they get the money to make capital improvements?

I can only assume that the staff is woefully underpaid, and considerably overworked.

God bless you guys, this seems more like a labor of love than a true profit making venture.

I must remember to repeat this to myself every time I feel the urge to begin complaining about insignificant issues.......

My regards,

Widewing


Widewing, the quote above comes across to me as pompous and nosey. People are in business to make money, when ya basically tell 'm they're not making any money on their own public forum in front of their customers, well, it's just tacky man. Really tacky.

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« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2002, 01:52:51 AM »
5000 subscribers x $15.00/month = 75,000/month = 900,000/yr.


$900,000 Budget
<$250,000> HiTech Salary
<$600,000> potatos & Liquor
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That leaves $50,000 for everyone else, and paying the overhead.
Amazing.

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« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2002, 05:12:12 AM »
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY

We're all just a bunch of average Joe's and Jane's here trying to make a living.  I'm betting a lot of our players make more than us.

baaa be carefuly with bets... hehe as obey member of our army getting 100USD/month i have to pay all from that.. food,roof,AH
but this freaking millitary hell is close to end :cool: 2 months to be freeeeeeeeeeeeee

if you need vacation  SPERFLY, we could switch for a while ... i would enjoy your beatle :D

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« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2002, 05:59:45 AM »
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I would suggest that a modest sum has been invested in equipment and that the largest investment has been made in talent.


Commercial 3D graphics packages are not cheap. Neither is the hardware you need to run them.

I would agree with you that the staff at HTC is remarkably talented...that only six people have pulled this off is quite a feat.

Unlike the vast majority of players, I actually know what it's like to be part of a small team of talented game developers.

BTW Rude, I hearby nominate you for "squeaky reply of the week". Didn't see anything in Widewing's posts that deserved your attitude. Guess you are trying to live up to your handle...

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Re: Re: How does HTC manage a profit?
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2002, 07:59:03 AM »
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Widewing, the quote above comes across to me as pompous and nosey. People are in business to make money, when ya basically tell 'm they're not making any money on their own public forum in front of their customers, well, it's just tacky man. Really tacky.


Generally speaking, I can see where you may get that impression, which is why I clarified my statement. There was no  intention to bruise feelings, but to compliment HTC. I'm sorry that you and Rude understood it otherwise.

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Widewing
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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2002, 08:15:38 AM »
whaaa.... widemouth "pompous and nosey"??

who da thunk?    Poor little widemouth... they didn't like him in AW and nobody at home likes him and now.... we don't appreciate him here.     Oh well... look at the good side widemouth.. you wanted attention and now you got it.
 
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« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2002, 08:24:09 AM »
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they didn't like him in AW and nobody at home likes him and now....


hmm change AW to WB and tell me who that guy would be? :D

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« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2002, 08:35:53 AM »
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I'm betting a lot of our players make more than us.


I bet your correct Superfly however many of us would trade our higher paying jobs to have a job like yours!  I know I would, want to trade?  I'm a Network Administrator at a large law firm in downtown Dallas.

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« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2002, 08:36:34 AM »
There's more to life than how much money you make at your job.  I've passed by many chances for higher pay because it would have meant changing my hours or days off and taken me away from my family. I work where I am only because it allows me to do the things with my life that I really want to do.

It doesn't matter to me who makes what kind of money. But if these guys are doing okay.... AND they are really enjoying thier jobs... well, then in my opinion they have won life's lottery.

They get a little money from me each month because they put out a product that I think is worth that money.

Keep up the good work!

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« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2002, 08:43:08 AM »
mox... I am sure that widemouth would be shocked to learn that one or two others here have run companies.  And would either love to get into something more "fun" or "fulfilling" or.... allready have.

Certainly none as impressive as a web site like jordan publishing tho.
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« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2002, 09:01:20 AM »
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You wrote: Let's just say, I tire of negative or unproductive posts. Patience for me runs thin after all of these years listening to the same self righteous crap.

 


My God Rude...  How can you read these things so differently than the rest of the people...  It's as though you read in between the lines, all the while thinking you are obviously so much more intelligent and important than the rest of the players.  Then you come up with your lame interpretations and present them with this cocky "I know it all cause I have inside info" attitude... This reaks of self rightousness...  Dale is a big boy and an astute businessman.  He certainly doesn't need you to run interference for him.  Get off the defensive posture dude... ;)

Read your own post the way you read others...  This thread was nothing but positive until you and Lazs, dropped your infinite wisdom in here.    You and Lazs can trash a good thread faster than anyone in these BB's... :eek:

I see nothing in WideWings posts that is negative or criticizing and most certainly not unproductive...  I only see a heartfelt respect for HiTech as one businessman to another...

Bro, if you have ever been in business for yourself and have  experienced cash flow problems, or been placed in the position of generating revenue in order to intice investment capital, while keeping any and all investors happy (which is harder than keeping all of us players happy)  then you can relate to what it is like to make personal sacrifice for the better of the business.  I only see WideWing praising Dale for his business practices, while realizing first hand what it takes to accomplish what he has so magnificently managed.

BOOT

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« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2002, 09:14:13 AM »
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whaaa.... widemouth "pompous and nosey"??

who da thunk?    Poor little widemouth... they didn't like him in AW and nobody at home likes him and now.... we don't appreciate him here.     Oh well... look at the good side widemouth.. you wanted attention and now you got it.
 
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Not that anyone expect much from the speedbump... But, I never played AW. Ninny.
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« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2002, 09:20:23 AM »
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hmm change AW to WB and tell me who that guy would be? :D


hehehehehe!

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« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2002, 09:47:25 AM »
Well....at least Rip noticed what I was speaking to. That's a good thing I think:)

Widewing....

What I have to say about anything on this board is of no consequence to HTC or his customers. I may have chastised you due to years of ridiculous and ignorant statements, along with childish complaints that have been posted on this and other boards. If that is the case, I offer my apology.

It is my experience, that you can know people by the fruit they produce. Perhaps the future remarks you choose to make will clarify your intention, as they tend to do for all of us.

Sure would be nice if folks just paid their dime, encouraged HTC, counted their blessings and got on with the business of makin friends and honin skills.

Just not our nature eh?