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Offline BenDover

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we got engines cutting out on spit & hurri 1s in neg Gs, now how about
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2002, 03:24:08 PM »
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In the case of the shell casings for the p51, there was a simple field mod designed by my wife's grandfather (he was ground crew for B's, later became cc) that prevented this and also kept the shaft clean from debri from grass/dirt fields that would cause them to back-up and jam the gun.

I've got some cool B-pony pics, and pics of his mod but I havent scanned in the mod pics yet.


would be cool if you could get those pics

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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2002, 04:37:46 PM »
next time I'm over there (grandma's house) I'll grab the good mod pics, it looks like a rear-facing scoop that was riveted over the ports the casings were ejected from. Grandma says he was particularly proud of it :)

At work now, when I get home tonight I'll post some of the pony pics in the SS forum.

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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2002, 05:48:32 PM »
Bendover..once again you are comparing apples and oranges.
That is the engine technology on the early merlin..It was designed to be that way. The others are manufacturing or engineering defects and were not intended to be that way.

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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2002, 06:47:10 PM »
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unfortunatly, i don't have the figures, but i know someone has them, wish i could remember the thread, but i don't.

But what i do remember is that about half of n1k2j's destroyed fell out of the sky due to mechanical problems.


Listen dude, Pongo already mentioned manufacturing defects are not modelled on AH.  Furthermore if you want something like that modelled on AH you better go with number of hours logged by each plane before it fell apart, because we are talking about a life span of a plane.

And most importantly, I remember the thread you are talking about.  Some of us were curious as to whether what he posted was true and asked for the source.  Guess what?  He didn't come up with it.  That number is not a reliable source.

Don't tell me that you are going to believe that thread and say N1K2-Js had highly unreliable land gears, because I already showed it on my thread (N1K2-J and its gears) that this is a misunderstanding and rather incorrect.

If you are going into this direction, go research into the FW190D which also suffered from manufacturing defects and see if you can come up with numbers which are reliable.

Honestly, I would rather have HTC spend their efforts in modelling more planes than doing something that cannot even be qualified or quantified.

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2002, 07:08:15 PM »
Any aircraft failure is already simulated by my computer and connection being crap.

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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2002, 06:03:39 AM »
ok, I apologize, I thought those were real figures

and you could have said those were not real figures, instead of being snappy by saying "NO way", making you sound like a whiner, whining about his favourite ride.

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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2002, 07:57:43 AM »
Maybe introduce a 262 with 100 perk points that has realistic engine management? Would mean that instead of the present slow rev-up time the pilot would have full control but also the option to flame out his engines if he didn't take care of them..

That would bring an uncertainty factor and added skill requirement enough to decrease perk value. What do you think?
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2002, 09:47:30 AM »
i've just had an idea for a new strat target, engine factorys, taking these out would effect that countrys engine reliabilaty

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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2002, 04:10:51 PM »
FWIW, in my opinion if you model the Spit and Hurri's neg G problems with their fuel system, the same should be done to the 262 and the AR234 and their design flaws in the fuel systems.
Having to baby the throttle movements to avoid a flameout should  be modeled in, just like the neg G stuff, because both were flaws in the system, and nothing is more BS than including designs problems into one country's planes but not their enemy's planes.

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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2002, 07:11:53 PM »
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ok, I apologize, I thought those were real figures

and you could have said those were not real figures, instead of being snappy by saying "NO way", making you sound like a whiner, whining about his favourite ride.


Ben, Ben, Ben... no need to apologize... and let's not start this, this thread started off as a whine to bash the N1K2.