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Offline Hangtime

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« on: February 08, 2001, 10:42:00 PM »
We started with 2 fields and 19 guys... and got it all back in about 2 hours.

Next came Operation Maul.. 18 b17's plus lancs for the city and a 'light' escort package.. I sent 'em out without enuff fuel; and they subsequently were unable to cover the buffs on the final leg to HQ.. I killed approx 25 of my countrymen with that mission planner... arrrrgh.

To make matters worse; while typing I managed to bail myself... ever have one of them days?

Although we took down the city the entire force was annilated on its final transit to HQ.. the rooks tore us up. Nice defense there rooks. <S!>

Next. we went to a10; and Nash ran a superb 4 minute takedown and capture.. we tried to roll over onto a9; but a rook boat south of a10 and a fast reaction team outta a9 twarted us.. still we turned a9 into a wasteland; and managed to down the rook boat; but we lost a10 back to the rooks less than an hour after we grabbed it. Good job Rooks!

Exhausted; with 2 sore index fingers; I retired from the battle..

A huge <S> and thanks to:

357th Pony Express
13th TAS
Dickweed Heavy Bomber Group
Strumjeager
Rowdy Rebels
The Screamin Blue Messiahs
The NightHawks
Airsquadron
Airwolves
1st/AG Bishlanders
The 56th FG
526th Bomb group
Firebirds 56
The assorted bish aircrews not affiliated by squad or inclination.. and any squads I missed above

Even skurj; who tho he squeaked incessantly that we wern't fighting where he was, he did fight like hell to hold a19..

Special thanks to Nash; who seemed to know what I was thinking before I thought of it, Wardog for never ever even THINKING about doing anything but knockin those bums back off the beaches of the homeland and tearing at em for six straight hours; or more.. he was still there when I left.. along with the 50 or so other guys who individually or collectively found the enemy and engaged him. You guys took us from an immenenet reset on our home island all the way back to their City and beyond... WTG guys.

And last but by no means least.. The Fat Drunk Bastards and Fattys Mom, our inspiration to go capture somebody elses fields to see if it's any better in THAT ready room.  

Next time Rooks; I assure you.. we'll give no warning and show no mercy. <S!> Great defense up north!

WTG Bishes!

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2001, 11:11:00 PM »
Hey - I thought we did pretty good.    

Fighting back is *exponentially* harder the less bases you have to work with. Going from 2 to 10 or so in 3 hours aint half bad. Nah, it's good. Nevermind the fact that we gave the other countries the heads up about tonight. Suprise accounts for how much of a mission's success? Yeah, some.

Quoteth Zigrat: "Wow. I've never seen a country get out of the bucket that fast."

That's a good compliment I reckon, Hang... and you should feel pretty good about it.

This was the 2nd night of Bish combined Ops, and will by no means be our last. And we're learning all sorts of things. So we'll visit you chumps again, shortly. Don't call us, we'll call you and all that. On second thought, this time we *won't* call you... We'll just show up on yer doorstep one night with flowers and a toejam eating grin.  

Anyways... <S> Hang, nice job. No really, nice job. We get em harder next time.

Cheers.


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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2001, 11:14:00 PM »
AAR: C-47A Skytrain (a.k.a Gooney Bird)
MISSION: CAPTURE A10

I rolled out off of field A11 as part of ANVIL-1 flight with a primary objective to capture Field A10. The fighters and bombers departed on a NW direction while I was directed to depart heading due North.

As soon as I was wheels up and flying at 190IAS I pushed the nose down and headed NE, away from the direct flight route of the enemy fighters heading south from A10.

About 10 miles SE of A10 I began seeing several cons high to the west. An enemy TG was off to my NE so I began turning to a more northerly direction, trying to fly the gap between the cons and the fleet without being seen.

I looked up to see an enemy F4U heading towards me at about 5.5k out. I radioed to mission lead I was spotted. Fearing the worst, I pushed the nose down further and brought my C-47 level just inches above the deep blue. I was hoping that if the F4 spotted me and made a firing pass, he would get to low and crash...

My gamble worked, The F4 began a dive for me but must have compressed... Tracers filled the air but managed to find only my exhaust trails. The F4 impacted the water about 200 yards behind me.

I continued on north and radioed to mission lead that I was now about 5 miles east of the target field and would arrive in 2 minutes. I was then advised the strike package was still 5 minutes out.

"How the heck is that possible?" I thought to myself. "We left A11 at the same time and I'm in the slowest plane." I decided to head for land NE of the target field.

A couple minutes passed and I knew the situation was getting hot and several Rook defenders were now on there way to A10 from their field A9 in the north. I didn't expect to be lucky again if I was discovered.

There were at least 7 friendlies over the target field so I decided to push it in. Nash warned of enemy presense on the field, but I was confident they would have it supressed by the time I got there.

Gear down and throttle chopped, I made a hastey landing on the east side of A10. I rolled up a few feet from the map room and let my troops out.

They all got so drunk during the mission that they all decided to yell "Geronimo" and open their chutes even though we were already on the ground. "Idiots," I thought. "Where the hell does the Army get these guys?"

At least they could march. Each soldier held his rifle a perfect 6" from his chest and marched in perfect spacing in a nice straight line. Their mom's would have been proud.

Then, just as I thought they weren't so dumb after all, each of them detonated an explosive as soon as they got into the enemy's map room! After the 10th trooper made himself into a human bomb, I was informed the field was captutred.

WTG Bishops. Even in the face of unrelenting enemy attacks from both flanks, we managed to steal a small airfield. lol...

<SHAKES FIST> Damn Rooks.. We shall have revenge!

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2001, 02:34:00 AM »
<S>
The Buccaneers were engaged in defending a Southern base, so we didn't see your raid live.
But it sure made ONE HECK OF A BIG SCAREY BLOB on the radar!

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2001, 04:09:00 AM »
<S> Had fun fellas.

Good News,
You guys are outa the barrel. Reset at 4 am CST.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2001, 05:06:00 AM »
Congrats to Hangtime for gathering the forces, and to the few that did so much in a short time. Team effort paid off tonight as Bishland was looking bleak with only 2 fields to run opps from.

As combined opps gets going we would like to see more Squads and the Lone Wolfs join in these missions as well. The more people familiar with the mission planner and the team effort involve, the more other will get involved in the fun.

And damn, was it a fun opps. Thanks goes to the Bishop that stuck it out for 2 or 3 hours to retake Bish fields. And the Rook city run was a marvel to see upping a11.

WTG on the team effort. I urge all to get involved in any combined opps in the future.

Dog out.....

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2001, 07:19:00 AM »
lol hbalir

your wifey gonna b upset with you for 4 am gaming?

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2001, 07:33:00 AM »
I always wanted an AAR Cuda. 340, Six-pack, four speed, posi, pistol grip shifter. Oh Ah Ooops, am I in the right post.    

Really I just wanted to say that the 17 mission on the HQ looked cool from the Rook side. I could tell you what the biggest mistake you made was but I want you to try it again.   Really guys it was cool. Great effort. I wish we had something going like that on our side. Even though it didn't come off for a couple of reasons it was fun I bet to be in that group. It is missions like that that show what this game can be even in the MA. I wasn't even part of it and I thought it was cool from the defending side. Getting in my G-10 and wepping the hell out of the engine to get to alt quick and coming in on that tight group of bombers. But guess which one I went after. The straggler just like in real life. I got him and the escorts got me. It was COOL!. That tight group of B-17 didn't look appealing at all.

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2001, 08:12:00 AM »
 I logged on at about 5 to 9pm eastern and the red bars near a11 reminde me that you had a massive ops staged for that night.   I started talking to fellow MOL and we had one guy (JimDandy or Swamprat)  who ended up in 11,11 saying he was knew he was surrounded but could not see anything. Next thing he says is he's 5k above a huge gathering of enemy. He tracked you north/northeast for quite a while as I rushed north (had upped from A4 to A5 and headed to him when it was obvious this was the Bish raid(S)) and he found your bombers. I helped relay the posrep into the text as he told me via radio as Zigrat and folks got organised.

 The rest you know.

 Except, that it was an almost unanimous opinion that your escorts lacked severely.   All out of position with no apparant escort strategy as they were all scattered all over the place. It also appeared that many folks did not know how to fly the 51 at 25k. But the Spitfire is even worse at that alt and the Chog just doesn't look right when escorting B17's in a Euro theater looking mission.  

 Otherwise. That was a blast!!!

   -Westy

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2001, 08:42:00 AM »
Well now that Westy spilled the beans...  

I really would have liked to have seen you guys pull it off actually. It looked good until I started tracking you guys. Then I could see the fighter cover was spread out and disorganized. As Westy pointed out it appeared the some of the 51 pilots hadn't had a lot of time in it. Not their fault but it made for some bad over shooting and compressing. There were to many trying to get their kills and leaving the bombers with their butts hanging out. You know why I'm telling you this? I'm telling you because it was neat to see you all get organized and to defend against a group that size. It was a blast! May I suggest that you issue planes with dive brakes for general use. That way the inexperienced guys have a buffer. It was mostly the discipline. Way to many engaged and left the bombers sparsely covered. You had the numbers to do it I think. They can't drop more than 3 or 4k below the bombers so that they can get back up to them quicker. Always leave a couple of guys up there with them as back up. It takes guys that want to see the mission complete and aren't worried about the points for the kills. They have to be up there for the fun of the mission it self. They have to break off and climb back to defend the bombers. <S> guys it really was cool even at that. These are just suggestions. Please don't take offence. If you think I'm wrong that's cool.

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2001, 08:49:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
We started with 2 fields and 19 guys... and got it all back in about 2 hours.

WTG Bishes!

Ahhh, WTG Knits too, we were online when you had 3 fields left, and fought to the North against rooks,made sure their Radar stayed down for approx. 4 hours... that is...until you started hitting Knits..then we said "Screw you, so much for charity!"  



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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2001, 08:58:00 AM »
"Well now that Westy spilled the beans...   "

 

 I just figured a tougher opponant equals white knuckle battles. Last night was fun, but it was a bit like shooting fish in a barrel - even when the sky was full of 47's and 51's because they were not that effective.  

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2001, 09:25:00 AM »
 
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"Well now that Westy spilled the beans...   "

 

 I just figured a tougher opponant equals white knuckle battles. Last night was fun, but it was a bit like shooting fish in a barrel - even when the sky was full of 47's and 51's because they were not that effective.  

-westy

Ditto. I loved that fight and I didn't even get to do a lot in it. I want another so I can get more out of it against a better organized and deadly opponent.  

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2001, 09:30:00 AM »
 
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then we said "Screw you, so much for charity!"    
Muhahahah good one rip  
It was a lovely night with a constant preasure from the rook until the knit started their offensive   thx !
18 bish vs 43rook (when I've logged) and they where unable to provoque a reset when the bish where down to 3 field  
But got some good fight ... even when I was shot down by a =Bishops Brave Men= ?  

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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2001, 10:32:00 AM »
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I came online just as 12 was captured and saw a mass of bish headed to 11. I jumped in a light pony to escort but realized the buffs would be on target before I arrived so I proceeded to 15 where a straffed 2 ack and watched as loser landed and dropped goons. My radiator was hit and I ditched away from field to avoid injuring our troops that were on the feild. I then upped 17 in a 26 and headed to 19 to get ack. 11 was taken and aircraft from the attack on 15 were diverted to 14 which was soon captured as well. In the 20 min I had been online our home island was secure.We had strikes to 7 5 and 6 taking place as well as a strike on 19. Over 19 I dropped 4 acks before an f4 kept me occupied. I got several pings on him and he extended north. He was later caught by bishland fighters and killed, I got assist. At this point bishlanders were all over 19 so I proceeded to 21 where I dropped 7 ack then rtb to 19 which by then was bish. At 19 I learned how eager the bish were for destroying things. The entire base including the barracks were dead. I upped 18 in goon to 21 and when I got there it was dead and I was able to drop troops and capture it. Then Hangtime announced operation Maul was to begin. He included in his plan 190a8's. Ametz and I were the only 2 who accepted the 190's. There was concerns by others that a 190a8 would not make it from 11 to hq and back but were had little concern for our own survival. We were tasked as a forward screen for the buffs and remained out ahead at 17k till we reached the rook city where we reported and I quote "a whole heap o'g10's and a yak" they were below us and we attempted to just keep them low till the rest of the escorts arrived (p51's). As a few 51's began arriving we went north to intercept incoming cons from rook home island. We danced with them trying to drag them low but thier numbers grew just as our buffs began arriving. Ametz scored a kill and then I got 1 and seeing our p51s were more capable at alt to deal with the g10s we withdrew south to re-evaluate the situation. At this point our buffs were being decimated by rook defenders and all the incoming cons were at 20k+ we decided to rtb. While we were on the way to rook city 7 and 5 were taken. 4 was under a bish strike and 3 had friendly cons overhead. We had hoped 3 would have been taken so we could land there but it wasn't and then hoped for 4 but rooks countered from 1 drove attack from 4 and were ib 5. When we were east of 4 and on fumes. I ran out of fuel and ditched Ametz better managed his fuel and made it to 5.
Ametz and I joined next mission Anvil 2 in p51s and escorted hangtime to 9 where Ametz was killed I got 1 kill clearing hangtimes six but he was soon swamped with rook fighters and I found my self alone over 9. As I turned to rtb I saw a Bish in trouble low so I went to clear his 6 I got numerous pings on the rook 51 but soon was put on defense by the overwhelming air superiority over 9 and after. After a brief dance I was killed.
Then it started.
Knits were countering in south . The rooks in the North had stemmed our onslaught and were countering as well 7 5 19 were lost 10 was gettin hit as was 21. All this was to be expected but what was most shocking was the whining that began until I logged.  The whining was restricted to a few but sure was annoying so much so that I found it easier to call it a night then listen to it. After being online when rooks were running ovr our homeland and defending 16 for an hour earlier in the day and being reduced to 2 bases and a cv I had thought we would be lucky to survive a reset then watching in the first hour of what will be known as BISHOP NIGHT our guys sweep the rooks from our main land and regrabbed most of our territory. I have to give a BIG SALUTE to hangtime for being the glue and to all who fought hard even the whiners.
 

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