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Offline Wmaker

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AH's Bf109G-2's level top speeds tested.
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2002, 11:39:27 AM »
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Originally posted by LLv34_Camouflage
Could someone please test the climb rates using 300 km/h (186 mph, punch it in autopilot) speed, and recording the climb rate readings (from the climb rate gauge) at every 2000ft alt or so? Maybe use 270 km/h (168 mph) as well?  It would also be good to record the "time to altitude" with a stop watch. I would do the tests, but I don't have AH here... :/


Camo, climb speed was 300km/h at sea level reducing gradually being 210km/h at 10km. To find the ideal time to altitude it needs several tests IMO.
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2002, 06:15:06 PM »
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Camo, I wonder how you've gotten so accurate speeds considering the small size of the LN2 chart? Did you scan it for bigger size and do some editing to it? But yes generally your speeds match the chart...of course pretty hard to say if its 520km/h or 521km/h. ;)


I did that a couple of years ago. I took a photocopy of the page and enlarged it, I think 4 fold.  Then just used a ruler and a sharp pen. ;)

Scanning and using a picture editing program would be more accurate, I guess I should do that.  My LN2 is in Finland, though.



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Here are the speeds from "Finnish Aces of World War 2" in km/h.

2000m, 575km/h (your figure 567km/h)
6000m, 639km/h (your figure 617km/h)


Hmmm, I wonder if I made a mistake... Do you have LN2 there, can you check?

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These variations got me thinking that maybe there were two seperate tests with MT-215. Difference in air temperature of the day alone could explain the variation. :) ...Or the chart in LN2 is somewhat inaccurate...

Speed test in which "Finnish Aces of the World War 2" refers is dated 5th of April 1943.


LN2 said the tests were flown in March 1943 by Pekka Kokko. Looks like separate tests, then!

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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2002, 11:15:06 AM »
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Hmmm, I wonder if I made a mistake... Do you have LN2 there, can you check?


I checked allready when I said your measured speeds *generally* match. It looks like your 567km/h figure looks pretty good but I think top speed at 6km is more than 617km/h but still not as high as 639km/h. But as I said it's really hard to be sure since it's so small chart.

To add the confusion, LN2 list top speed being 636km/h (not 639km/h as "Finnish Aces of World War 2" lists) at 6km.

And another thing, while LN2 lists top sped being acchieved at 6km (636km/h). The chart clearly shows higher speed (little below 650km/h) at little over 6000m. Speed curve does so sharp turn (increase in speed) with very little altitude change here that I'm doubting it.

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LN2 said the tests were flown in March 1943 by Pekka Kokko. Looks like separate tests, then!


LN2 mentions only that the climb test was done in March. There is no mention about the speed test's date. Of course it's pretty safe to assume that climb test was done in a series of test flights which also included speed test.

With all of this in mind. It would be very interesting to see the orginal flight test documents. I wonder where they are today. Maybe in the Finnish war archives or perhaps in Finavitec's archives?
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2002, 03:50:25 PM »
Wmaker,
The MT-215 report is available from a public archive in Finland, you just need to dug it out...

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