level bombing of shipping

[Wotan]

no one is talking about "how" fluffing sorties are flown in this instance (unlike fluff fh killing) but to the effect that these sorties have in relation to rl.

How fighters are flown in ah is 80% of the time to engage other fighters. Almost all except / demand for a "realistic" fm.

Fluffing a cv has little to do with the type of sortie. We all know that level bombers were sent after shipping. The lw did it. The brits the us everyone did. But the ability to put bombs on a cv with laser accuracy is the bs that Dejavu is talking about. He is 100% correct.

The counter argument isn't "well jabos suicide cvs" or all aircraft sorties in ah are "unrealistic" Thats besides the point.

The evidence above by the original poster does nothing to show that what happens in ah happened in rl. We all apreciate the game of ah. The question is should the "tools" we have in ah be made as close as possible to reflect the real "effect" they had in the real world. If so how far should we push for "real" effects. We know that most gunnery in real life was done at closer ranges then in ah. Do we ask that the gunnery be "dumbed" done to reflect this? Theres a whole host of things like this.

But in relation to the topic ah fluffers dont just have a greater "effect" then real life, it is purposely modeled into them. 1.10 addresses this and I am quite certain the ease at whick cv are "sniped" from alt will change.

[Hooligan]

Level bombing just wasn't very accurate.  Here is a description of a strike of 12 B-24s on Kahili airbase on 14 September 1943.  

     As the Liberators began dropping their loads in a straggling column of vees, about 50 bursts of heavy-caliber antiaircraft fire smeared the blue sky around them, mostly behind the formation.
     Not surprisingly, many of the Army's bombes geysered into the sea off the strip, although a few landed in a dispersal area near the strip.    

Hooligan

[loser]

Wotan i cant help but think that your reply was aimed at me.  So be it.

Is bombing in AH now porked? YES!!!!! absoloutely.  I am a member of the largest and most experienced BUFF (not fluff) squad in AH.  Bombing can get extremely boring at times.

Why? Because of the dumbed down, no...... right easy bomb sight.  That is a gameplay point.  No not the one you think. >>>


Im guessing here,,,, but HTC most likely modelled the bomb sight as a simple instrument because of the time to model a "close to real life" one.  As most AH players love the furballs and close range low alt combat and high on high E fights, HTC filled out plane sets, made them look nice, made more maps etc.  

Now that AH has a huge player base and tons of planes, there is a chance to develop mud moving into new territory.  

I am peeing my pants with happiness that some sort of sight will be modelled now.  Dispersion?!!? Bring it on!!!!!              Cloud layers and banks that obsure targets for hours??!?!? YES!                  Dud bombs?!?!? hell yeah! !!!!!!!!!      Bombs butting heads out of the doors and getting headed off to who knows where?!??!?!? please!!!!!!!!!!!!!      

but then all we would hear was "fluffs get too much attention"  


lets see what happens Wotan and others okay?

oh BTW  when the squad ups 20 buffs with 2 buddies each....your fhs are the least of your worries. (no fps comments allowed...yet)

[Karnak]

Part of the problem is that bombs detonate on water in AH.  That turns a Lanc's 4,000lb near miss into a hit.

[lazs2]

Ok... ya got me... if a ship is dead in the water and unable to move then I will concede that 5 or 6 4 engined bombers should be able to finish it off before it sinks on it's own.  Once in a while.
lazs

[lazs2]

well heck.... I am feeling generous... I would not be adverse to you girls claiming dozens of fighter kills  and CV/airfields destroyed every mission you fly... I would say you should get the credit.   Just so long as it can't really happen..... It would be fine with me if you went home or on channel one claiming my CV was destroyed so long as I could still take off from it...see,I can be as "historic" as the next guy...  I even read the book.
lazs

[Ghosth]

First off Wotan stop useing the word "fluff" unless you MEAN to alienate everyone who ever flew a bomber sortie & enjoyed it. IT is in my opinion a deliberate slap in my face every time I read it.
It is condesending and supperior in tone. Not like you normally.

 Anyone who uses it immediately gets a black mark against his name in my book. Plus I suspect that he belongs to that select group of  whiners laz
has gathered that have no brain of their own. They just parrot whatever laz has said last.


Wait & see what happens.

[Pyro]

Originally posted by Ghosth
First off Wotan stop useing the word "fluff" unless you MEAN to alienate everyone who ever flew a bomber sortie & enjoyed it. IT is in my opinion a deliberate slap in my face every time I read it.
It is condesending and supperior in tone. Not like you normally.

That's funny, I was skimming through this thread thinking to myself, "I'm not even sure what the argument is that's being put forward, but it must be weak whatever it is."

[kidcol]

I think it has something to do with the indisputable fact that level bombers have always, or never ever could sink capital ships in WW2. That was definately it. Or that was absolutley not it.. I'm confused now..

All I know is, Ghosth has a little book he's making colored marks in..

And that scares me

kid

[lazs2]

between the out of control artlaws and the (cough)"sensitive" lisper ghosth...  I'd say the training staff has some problems.
lazs

[Turbot]

Enough!  This is the proper way to attack a ship



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