Idea for making use out of Recon...

[Heinkel]

While on the MA the other day...i came up with this idea. There is alway's someone asking "What do we need at feild XX (insert feild number) or do we need a goon here? (It's not bad or annoying that people are asking these question's...it's just that i see them a lot)

So anyway...here's my idea. We add "cameras" to planes that could realistically carry them (Spit 14 and 262 come to mind). With these camera's, people can take films of feild's, and bring them back to (Knights/Rooks/Bishs). Now, there could be like an Intel room, where people can post the films they took of a base.

So...if i wanted to know what we need at Feild 14 say...i could go to the "intel room" and see what is going on at that feild and what we need...

Now of cousre..people just aren't going to film bases because they feel like it...so 5-6 perks per a recon mission would seem fair...

Comments? Suggestions?

Thanks and

[Xjazz]

S!

Sound good, but...

Up- and downloading recon pictures and films eat bandwidth.

If I use 1600*1200/32 reso and take picture (alt+s), it will be huge size!

Modem user dont like this too much and MA-server could elso start netfarting...

Maybe we need "Photo Develope Room" (loggof) and resize photo & turn it to B/W. You logon and go to the IRoom and upload photo MA-server...

Maybe not...

[Masherbrum]

Actually I do believe the 110 and the 38 would be the best candidates for this, but I think it would take the element of surprise out of the game.  I don't like it, I'm not trying to start a flame fest, but if other's agree or disagree, so be it.

Masher

[ccvi]

Originally posted by Heinkel
While on the MA the other day...i came up with this idea. There is alway's someone asking "What do we need at feild XX (insert feild number) or do we need a goon here? (It's not bad or annoying that people are asking these question's...it's just that i see them a lot)

Cameras won't help, but answers to that questions will.

When a movie is returned to the cinema room, whatever is visible is already outdated by a few minutes. with hangar rebuild times of 15 minutes and other targets beeing resuppliable this informations is almost useless.

If everyone attacking the same field tuned to the same channel and constantly reported what he was doing and what was going on, everthing would be find. Add to that meeting in tower or maproom and taking off together and there's more coordination than any enemy could handle.

[Hortlund]

Well, perhaps if you didnt have to return with the film, but just pressed alt+p or something, and a picture of the field was saved in the maproom.

[bikekil]

We can add PZL P11C as a recon bird

[MANDOBLE]

Heinkel, the idea is good, but:

1 - Actually you press the STRAT button and know almost everything about the status of the selected base.

2 - Even disabling STRAT info, bases do not need more than few minutes to be restored, So, while you are returning with the film the situation may change drastically.


A more simple idea may be as follows:

STRAT info is dissabled by default for all enemy bases as well as factory/HQ info. But you may go to these places, "take some pictures" and then the strat info for that base/factory/HQ is enabled for a period of time based on the ammount of pictures taken, and you get some perks for the recon mission.

For example, recon planes may take a "picture" per minute, and each picture adds 10 mins to the total time STRAT info is going to be enabled for that place. So, if you fly over enemy HQ and keep there taking pictures for 10 mins (taking 10 "pictures"), once you land at a friendly base, strat info about the enemy HQ will be availabe for the next 100 minutes.

[devious]

Nice idea, Mandoble. I like it.

[SlapShot]

MANDOBLE ... good idea, but we will need to see how that will fit with the new strat that is coming with 1.10.

This idea would also force the info on the strat page to reflect more than it already shows, which would be great IMHO.

[Sabre]

Nice concept, Mandoble.  I'd also like to add that I'd like the strat info to be available in the tower, as well as in flight (don't know the reason it isn't).  It's a simple matter of convenience.  Sure I can just jump to a gun or onto the runway for a minute to get the same info, but it would nice to cut out these superfluous steps when mission planning.

[Gman]

Ya I like the idea.

There has got to be some unobtrusive way to implement recon into Aces High.  It was such an important part of the war.  Even if it was just a special objective type deal, IE a target that was recon'd had lower dmg values or something like that, in order to represent the value of information regarding targetting in real life.  I dunno, anything would be cool though.

Maybe we'll see it in later releases.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Sabre
Nice concept, Mandoble.  I'd also like to add that I'd like the strat info to be available in the tower, as well as in flight (don't know the reason it isn't).  It's a simple matter of convenience.  Sure I can just jump to a gun or onto the runway for a minute to get the same info, but it would nice to cut out these superfluous steps when mission planning.

Maybe I don't understand what you are getting at, but field strat is available when in the tower. Just click on "MAP" and at the next window, choose the field that you want to see the strat for.

[MANDOBLE]

Fast recon ground vehicles may be also used to enable strat info of nearby bases. In this case should not be necessary to return to base after taking the pictures to enable the strat, but they should keep really close (2 km?) to the enemy base to take the pictures.

Recon planes may also make visible on the clipboard map the icon of fotographed enemy CV groups for a period based on the ammount of pictures taken up to 1 hour. In this case, perhaps 5 minutes showing the icon per picture, and taking one picture per minute. The CV icon will be visible only once the recon plane has landed successfully on friendly territory, so, when you spot a recon plane over your CV it will become a primary target to shotdown.

[Kratzer]

The problem is that the stategic, and especially the tactical, situations change way too fast in AH.  By the time you flew out, recce'd the base, flew back, and posted your shots, the base would be captured, or the facilities that were down would be up, up would be down...

[SlapShot]

Kratzer ... I don't think you understood the idea completely.

It's not that the recon plane would report what it saw at a particular point in time, but rather just ENABLE strat for that field once the recon plane has landed back at a friendly base.

Also, I would add to the idea, that you would have to choose the camera at the hangar and say, you would be allowed only 2 pictures (equals 30 minutes of strat).

When the camera is selected (like bombs) squeezing the trigger would take the snapshot, incrementing the counter. Also, you would have to be at minimum distance in order for the snapshot to be taken.

Upon arrival at the field, you would then have to unload the pictures by squeezing the trigger again, much like delivering "field supplies".