Meteor?

[Qnm]

Angus:
Do you have sound clips or links to of those engines?

[Angus]

No, I don't have any sound files from the meteor unfortunately:(
It's a really special sound, its a "whoosh" like a jet, but with a special "buzzy" undertone, utterly cool.
I'll see if I can find it anywhere.

[Qnm]

Thanks Angus

[Nashwan]

http://www.gasturbine.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/derwent.htm

has a sound file of a Derwent, and an mpeg of one being run on a test stand.

[cajun]

Originally posted by Angus

p.s. Regarding the eternal Biplane begging....
I see no use of Biplanes untill we have the slowest monoplanes (Japanese and early European), and then ONLY if we got like 3 or 4 of them in a batch to be able to create a historical setup in the CT. The first one to feature would IMOP be the Swordfish.

Thats just what they are doing, we already are getting the val & SBD-5 (10 mph slower than the Gloster Gladiator, 35 mph slower than the CR42), The A6m2, only about 20 mph faster than CR42.

I have a feeling after early war pac planes are added HTC will add some more early - mid war European Theater planes, Like Stuka, Gloster Gladiator, Hs-123, CR42, I-153 & maybe the swordfish.

That would be enough for a good early-mid war set up I think...
I think biplanes would also be able to hold their ground in MA,
they may not be able to catch most planes, but they could out turn, out roll, and generally outmanuver any other plane.

Many times you have shot down people dogfighting in Il-2 and TBM I am sure, (or at least I have) those rarely go over 260 mph, even in a dive, imagine fighting in 1 of those only in a biplane you'd be able to easily outmanuver any opponent.


And for meteor, I was under the impression it was a 1946 plane from reading another post, as long as it saw action during WW2 we can have it I guess, but I think the early war planeset needs allot more work before HTC adds to many latewar planes.

[empire2]

So why couldnt we have the meteor

[Karnak]

Cajun,

CR.42 had a top speed of 267mph.  The A6M2 had a top speed of 316mph.  That is a difference of 49mph, not 20mph.  The A6M2 also is armed with 20mm cannon and climbs vastly faster.  The A6M2 would eat the CR.42 for lunch, just as Hurricane Mk Is and Spitfire Mk Is did in the BoB.

[Angus]

Not to mention the monoplanes superb performance when it comes to dive, acceleration and zoom.

[cajun]

Originally posted by Karnak
Cajun,

CR.42 had a top speed of 267mph.  The A6M2 had a top speed of 316mph.  That is a difference of 49mph, not 20mph.  The A6M2 also is armed with 20mm cannon and climbs vastly faster.  The A6M2 would eat the CR.42 for lunch, just as Hurricane Mk Is and Spitfire Mk Is did in the BoB.

1: I found a web site that lists CR.42's top speed as 280MPH.

2: The a6m2 may be able to go faster, but the CR42 can out turn and roll it easily, just kill it like you kill any other plane in an A6m.

3: Most CR42s were armed with 2x50 cals, but I have heard of some being armed with 2x20 mms like the Hs-123 german biplane dive bomber.

You can BnZ a biplane all you want, but they are very easy to avoid even in unmanuverable planes, now imagine a plane that can roll like a 190 and easily out turn a A6m2.  All you have to do is put down flaps do a lil evasive manuvor and pull the trigger when the enemy zooms in front of you.  I've done this trick and many others countless times in planes such as the Il-2, TBM, A6m-5 against much faster planes, even the Me262. And it works great

Tell ya what how bout we convince HTC to add a biplane and then we will find out who's right ?

[cajun]

They will also be much more usefull with the addition of all of these early war planes, Such as the Val & SBD-5 wich CR42, I-153 and Gloster Gladiator can all out run (Gloster Gladiator having the same top speed of the SBD but faster than the val).

[Mister Fork]

Empire - are those pictures posted taken by you? Are you a former Meteor pilot? Curious.

[Karnak]

cajun,

Finding a website that says the CR.42 goes 280mph (still 36mph slower than the A6M2, not 20mph slower) does not make it so.  Every source I have found lists either 267mph or 268mph as the CR.42's top speed.

I highly doubt that the CR.42 would out roll the A6M2, two wings are not condusive to a good roll rate.  It will out turn the A6M2, just as it would out turn the Hurri Mk I and Spit Mk Ia.  It still got slaughtered by the Hurris and Spits.

Speed and climb are far more important to a WWII fighter than being able to make really tight turns, as the Japanese painfully discovered.

[cajun]

Originally posted by Karnak
cajun,

Finding a website that says the CR.42 goes 280mph (still 36mph slower than the A6M2, not 20mph slower) does not make it so.  Every source I have found lists either 267mph or 268mph as the CR.42's top speed.

I highly doubt that the CR.42 would out roll the A6M2, two wings are not condusive to a good roll rate.  It will out turn the A6M2, just as it would out turn the Hurri Mk I and Spit Mk Ia.  It still got slaughtered by the Hurris and Spits.

Speed and climb are far more important to a WWII fighter than being able to make really tight turns, as the Japanese painfully discovered.

I see your point on the roll of it, I think it would out roll an a6m2 atleast though, I was thinking more in terms of the Gloster Gladiator in roll since it had 4 ailerons.

Speed and Climb are 2 very important things yes, but with a plane such as the Gloster Gladiator, I-153 and CR42 wouldnt you be at more of an advatage at low altitude fights because of your manuverability and much better preformance at lower speeds?
It may make it a little easier to BnZ attack you, but still BnZ would not be very effective against such a manuverable plane capable of low speeds.

It would also be a VERY good plane to up at vulched feilds, it would have a short take off time, be manuverable at low speeds, and be pretty tough cuz of the wooden construction like the hurricane we have.

[cajun]

Ah! the top speed of the I-153 was near 20 mph of the A6m2, not the CR42, got them mixed up.

Check out this site:
http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/aircraft/i153.htm

History:
One might jump to the conclusion that the Polikarpov biplane was superceded by the I-16 monoplane. In fact the I-16 flew before it was in service, the I-153 not reaching operational status in Mongolia until the late 1930's.

Polikarpov's Bureau began work on the TsKB-3 in 1932, when the earlier I-5 was in full production. Unlike the I-5 the new fighter had a small lower wing and large upper gull wing curved down at the roots to meet the fuselage. As the I-15, the highly manoeuvrable fighter gained a world altitude record before serving in very large numbers (about 550) in Spain, where it was dubbed Chato (flat-nosed). It even served against the Finns and Luftwaffe, but by 1937 was being replaced by the I-15bis with a continuous upper wing carried on struts.

The ultimate development was the powerful I-153 Chaika, with retractable landing gear, either wheels or skis folding to the rear. Coming on line in 1938 some thousands served in the Far East, Finland and on the Eastern Front. Armed with four 7.62 mm machine guns, the I-153 boasted a speed of 275 mph. While heavier than the I-15 types, the I-153 was powered by a M-62 1,000 hp engine. Later sub-types had variable-pitch propellors and drop tanks well outboard the lower wings.


Stats:
 
Polikarpov I-153 Chaika

Length:  20' 3"
Height:  9' 8"
Wingspan:  33' 5"
Empty Weight:  3,201 lb
Gross Weight:  4,321 lb
Maximum Speed:  285 mph
Service Ceiling:  29,527'
Range:  546 miles
Powerplant:  One Shvetsov M-62 1,000 hp 9 cylinder radial
Armament:  Four 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns plus six RS-82 rockets
External bombload:  Two 165 lb bombs

[empire2]

Empire - are those pictures posted taken by you? Are you a former Meteor pilot? Curious.-Mister Fork

yes...