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Offline Mister Fork

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was hurri2d cannons synchronized?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2002, 05:00:46 PM »
I don't mean to butt in, but I think there is more than one aircraft suffering from synchronized firing when it didn't have it.

Point in case: P-38. Didn't the P-38 fire all four 50's at the same time rather than the current synchronized version?

If this is the case, the Hurri needs to be fixed, and I suspect a bunch of other planes too.
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was hurri2d cannons synchronized?
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2002, 05:20:14 PM »
I brought that up a while ago fork and if you fired all 4 guns on a p-51B while having 500 rnds on each gun bank, it'd take (and ill use a fictitious time here, I dont remember the exact times) 5 seconds. At the same time, firing the 38's guns while having 500rnds also took 5 seconds. The odd thing is that in game it seems that if you fire the 51B's guns, each gun bank fires at once, resulting in 2 bullets going out at one time..while the 38 seems to shoot 1 bullet a time. But since its very hard to actually see what guns fire when you press the triggers there's no way to tell for sure. Confused me back then, confuses me now. Headaches.. not worth it ;)

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was hurri2d cannons synchronized?
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2002, 02:14:08 AM »
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Tony, would you agree that the current modelling of the cannons on the Hurricane IID is inaccurate then?  By your description I would say it is; the amount of recoil is extremely severe and virtually unaimable.
 


I've no idea - I would have to have flown a real IID and then the sim to compare, and I've not done either!

It's important to distinguish between the peak recoil impulse and the total recoil. Obviously, the 40mm round produced several times the recoil of a 20mm, enough to push the plane's nose down with each shot, but the long recoil spread the force out to minimise the stress on the aircraft's structure, so it was a firm push rather than a hard kick.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: was hurri2d cannons synchronized?
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2002, 02:18:01 AM »
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Originally posted by HoHun
Hi Tony,

>in fact the guns were generally fired semi-auto rather than full-auto

Do you know whether the mechanism was modified, whether the trigger system was modified, or whether it was up to the pilot to time the trigger pull?


It was left to the pilot. The RoF was low enough (90-100 rpm) that they presumably just stabbed the fire button for each pair of shots.

Incidentally, they also learned to pull back slightly on the stick just as they fired, to compensate for the nose-down push.

On a typical attack run a IID would fire four pairs of shots, starting at 900 yards and finishing - too close!

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