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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2002, 08:56:03 AM »
I enjoyed the movie, but then my backround is Foreign Policy with an emphasis on Russia, so hey, I "had" to like this movie lol.

Those were Tu-22's that attacked the battlegroup, and I think the attack scene was lifted from "Red Storm Rising" where it was a combined attack using Decoys from Tu-16s as well as the Tu-22s firing AS4 Missiles. IIRC, in "Red Storm Rising" the CVBG that is attacked didn't have Aegis Support (this was in 1986 I think, just after the Bunker Hill as commissioned).  Despite the fact that in my heart I know better, at the time, my suspention of dissbelief was complete. That scene was completly sublime.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2002, 09:51:06 AM »
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I liked it.  I think the best part was how they showed you the bomb going off.  I wasn't expecting it to go off right then.


Yep, heh it caught me offguard :)  I was expecting it for a few seconds prior to the actual blast.  When the scene changed to the hospital I leaned over and told my buddy I was waiting for an explosion... as SOON as I said that the fireworks started. =]
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2002, 10:32:44 AM »
I'm still waiting for a big budget movie that depicts a full blown between the U.S. and Russia.  This small conflict/ high suspense stuff is all crap.  I'm willing to bet that 'Sum of All Fears' is an hour and 40 minutes of boredom with 20 minutes of mild entertainment spread throughout.

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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2002, 10:40:35 AM »
Russia now has a junior seat in NATO and isnt our enemy anymore. They have decided to play ball with the west, and personally I am glad. I reckon they still got those 6000 odd nukes????

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2002, 02:20:31 PM »
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Uhhh.. whatever buddy

like being good with video games matters
but i know thats important to you, some people need to constantly remind others (and themselves) that they are good at something to feel confident. i think its cute that you chose a video game :) i dont even try to be good or have skill with video games. i just play to have fun. when i'm done, i get up and go do what i do best: real life.




Being good at video games doesn't matter, although I have to admit, being good is more fun than being the antipodes.

I guess you could say it's important to me, but only on these boards, not in real life--this forum is an extension of AH. Thus I use my experience in AH as a tool in discussion on these boards; you should know this of me by now, and saved yourself the time. What I find funny is that you come on these boards and attempt to give some kind of faux advice to me, then you find yourself trapped and bring out the "i dont even try to be good or have skill with video games" bit. Save it, I've seen this attitude many, many times before... and it has always been the loser's creed--"I just play to have fun" goes with that as well.
Come on, at least take after Clitabria and admit that you can't hack it instead of making excuses.

2176 posts, nice life. You're beginning to remind me of Dejawho, who also seems to be the exemplar of real life relations with his 6,000 posts.

Btw, just so you know, the whole idea of "getting at me" on the boards because of in-game frustration I efficate is nothing new, and has been going on for years now. It has becoming tiringly trite and preditable--a funny truism that all the people who attempt this type of retribution towards me have in common is that they all use the same type of technique to extenuate their lack of ability ingame, as you did.

Come up with something new if you wish to have some fun.
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2002, 02:49:42 PM »
I believe that was the most pretentious post I've ever read.


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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2002, 03:36:28 PM »
lol, nath, dude, you are full of toejam.

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Being good at video games doesn't matter, although I have to admit, being good is more fun than being the antipodes.


Yeah I agree. I also love being good in Aces High.

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What I find funny is that you come on these boards and attempt to give some kind of faux advice to me, then you find yourself trapped and bring out the "i dont even try to be good or have skill with video games" bit. Save it, I've seen this attitude many, many times before... and it has always been the loser's creed--"I just play to have fun" goes with that as well.


Try saying "Changing Lanes was like listening to Stravinsky's he Right of Spring; total lack of proper theme development, lack of a basic center or motive, ecetera... Stravinsky was a genius though, and managed to keep this type of work interesting to deal with." to a normal person face to face in a basketball court, and unless he/she lives in the same fantastic dimension as you seem to, they will not be able to keep a straight face.

But of course, if they laugh, you can always bring out your special "I am really good at basketball, and we are in a basketball course, so there, loser!" card, and they will be trapped, like I am! Oh, NO!!!!
lol.


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Come on, at least take after Clitabria and admit that you can't hack it instead of making excuses.


Woah, how did Cit get in here?

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2176 posts, nice life. You're beginning to remind me of Dejawho, who also seems to be the exemplar of real life relations with his 6,000 posts.


Yeap, and 75% of them made while making money in front of the computer, at work. Talk about efficiency. Oh, and I still see you hold a grudge against Vu for your misfire in trying to "educate" us with your musical expertise. That was a real horrorshow thread, best of all it brought out the classical music, signature and all for all to be reminded ;)


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Btw, just so you know, the whole idea of "getting at me" on the boards because of in-game frustration I efficate is nothing new, and has been going on for years now. It has becoming tiringly trite and preditable--a funny truism that all the people who attempt this type of retribution towards me have in common is that they all use the same type of technique to extenuate their lack of ability ingame, as you did.


No, your in-game ability has nothing to do. If that were the case, Drex would be target #1. We like to pick on you because of the outrageously retarded crap you come up with, Kep.

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Come up with something new if you wish to have some fun.


But I am having fun! :)
Keep the posts coming. Good entertainment.
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2002, 04:14:03 PM »
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Yeah I agree. I also love being good in Aces High.


heh, but you aren't.


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Try saying "Changing Lanes was like listening to Stravinsky's he Right of Spring; total lack of proper theme development, lack of a basic center or motive, ecetera... Stravinsky was a genius though, and managed to keep this type of work interesting to deal with." to a normal person face to face in a basketball court, and unless he/she lives in the same fantastic dimension as you seem to, they will not be able to keep a straight face.
But of course, if they laugh, you can always bring out your special "I am really good at basketball, and we are in a basketball course, so there, loser!" card, and they will be trapped, like I am! Oh, NO!!!!
lol.


I wouldn't have said it to a 'normal person', because if I knew they'd react the way you described, I'd know they wouldn't know of Stravinsky or what his music epitomized. And your obvious lack of that knowledge does not suprise me, which is probably partly attributed to how repetitive, boring, simple, and downright bad the music of your "culture" is. ;)

Bad analogy in your second paragraph: First, as you probably have ignored, this board is the extension of a game. One in which you can't compete with me in, thus you come here and start toejam. And as I will reiterate, if someone laughed at me for comparing a movie to a musical score, then I really think they are sadly shallow and uncouth. But then of course, I would procede to make them my squeak in the game, further proving that I'm better than them in not only musical knowledge, but games!

What a wonderful pitch you provided me with Anniemahl, thanks.


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Woah, how did Cit get in here?


How did a theoretical basketball court get in here? Dunno, but what I do know is that my Clitabria example is not only pertinent, but true.


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Yeap, and 75% of them made while making money in front of the computer, at work. Talk about efficiency. Oh, and I still see you hold a grudge against Vu for your misfire in trying to "educate" us with your musical expertise. That was a real horrorshow thread, best of all it brought out the classical music, signature and all for all to be reminded  


Oh my god, rolf. You are in cahoots with DejaVu now? I should have known, your whole style of confronting me is very derivative of his. The whole thing about playing games just for fun and not caring if you're good or not, and then trying to ameliorate that by bringing out the flames of my interest in classical music. Btw, just for your knowledge, since your imbecility seems to be pervading through your hands: Ansel Adams was not a musician, he was a photographer. And since I am one as well, I thought the quote was an interesting comparison...

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No, your in-game ability has nothing to do. If that were the case, Drex would be target #1. We like to pick on you because of the outrageously retarded crap you come up with, Kep.


Oh come now, I really, really, believe you are not this deaf.
Do you actually think if my abilities in AH were commensurate to yours, I would be this much of a product of contention? If you do, then it makes it even more clear that your abilities are a detriment to your ability to reason.

"How did Drex get in here?"

Damn you are bad, heh. I've never witnessed in a game so many unambiguous 'tards in my life... holy toejam.
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2002, 04:37:51 PM »
Nath did you get beat up a lot in Junior High?

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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2002, 04:40:57 PM »
Also check this out:  http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/22/215212.shtml

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U.S. Faces New Challenges, Including Acts of Aggression
Col. Stanislav Lunev
Thursday, Nov. 23, 2000
While we all are busy watching the Democrat candidate’s attempts to sabotage the results of the presidential election, potential adversaries of this country are increasing their anti-American activity.
With the help of the Clinton administration’s incompetence, they are trying to challenge and gain an advantage over the United States, sometimes in open acts of aggression against the American military.

For example, according to the Moscow press, Russian combat aircraft twice penetrated the air-defense system of the U.S. aircraft carrier battle group in the Sea of Japan and flew "a few feet over the upper deck" of the USS Kitty Hawk on Oct. 17 and Nov. 9.

It happened during regular naval exercises when the U.S. ships were under way to and from training areas in neutral waters.

As the Russian government-controlled TV channel ORT "proudly" announced on Nov. 15, on both these days Su-24R and escorting two Su-27 fighters from Russia’s 11th Air Force Army and Pacific Fleet overflew the Kitty Hawk battle group without recognition and interception. ORT also said that if this had been a combat mission, "the aircraft carrier’s destruction would have been guaranteed."

"The intelligence results of this mission are very impressive," ORT said. "Nothing could be more awesome. Our aircraft registered panic on board the Kitty Hawk, [whose] combat planes didn’t have a chance to take off in time for interception. Crew members of the Russian aircraft [have been given] the highest military awards."

According to the Russian media, "nothing like that has happened during the last 30 years, since a Soviet Tu-16 penetrated a U.S. aircraft carrier battle group in 1970. The extremely successful mission against the Kitty Hawk battle group was orchestrated by Russia’s military intelligence to see if its air force could fly undetected and penetrate the airspace of vital U.S. military locations, which were previously assumed to be invulnerable."

In reality, it was nothing but an open act of aggression against the U.S. military in neutral waters. Eight years ago the same act of aggression could have seriously influenced relations between Washington and Moscow, but the current U.S. administration and the mainstream press practically ignored this activity.

An interesting point: Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov in his interview with the ORT TV channel on Nov. 20 referred to this act of aggression as "normal relations in the current situation."
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2002, 05:42:30 PM »
Oh but its a perfect analogy Nath! you are stupid if you cant see that.
And how did Drex get in here? Well, you think you get prosecuted because you are impossibly good (and you arent) and I put Drex as an example of why you are wrong. He is better, he is liked, nothing wrong. He doesnt even try to stand out, like you do. Confident people dont need to remind others of how good they are.

Nath You remind me of a certain young jedi padawan. :)

Typical home schooled tardling. Completly out of touch with reality.

Assume what you like, your "culture" pales in comparison to what I grew up to appreciate and understand. Lets just leave it at that.

Its gonna be a sour adventure when you go face to face with the real world, Nath[BDP].  You want to be a NAVY fighter pilot if I remember correctly? LOL. Here are two words for You, wich you probably know the meaning but cant quite grasp, they both describe you perfectly, and they are quite a combination for disaster: arrogant and naive.

pretentiousness is just an amusing by-product.



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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2002, 05:47:07 PM »
Animal,beware the Jedi mind trick...:eek:
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2002, 05:51:19 PM »
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Animal,beware the Jedi mind trick...:eek:


Immune. That cheap trick only works against the weak-minded ;)
Its the genocidial light-saber rampage against my repetitive un-cultured people that I am afraid of.

But light sabers dont exist, and Natalie Portman is way off his league.. ;)

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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2002, 07:07:54 PM »
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Those were Tu-22's that attacked the battlegroup, and I think the attack scene was lifted from "Red Storm Rising" where it was a combined attack using Decoys from Tu-16s as well as the Tu-22s firing AS4 Missiles. IIRC, in "Red Storm Rising" the CVBG that is attacked didn't have Aegis Support (this was in 1986 I think, just after the Bunker Hill as commissioned).  Despite the fact that in my heart I know better, at the time, my suspention of dissbelief was complete. That scene was completly sublime.

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in RSR's attack on the CVBG, there was one Aegis CG with the group. Problem was there were 150 missiles coming for the battlegroup and just 98 SAMs on the Cruiser's Magazines


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But light sabers dont exist, and Natalie Portman is way off his league..  ;)
 



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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2002, 08:48:37 PM »
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Nath did you get beat up a lot in Junior High?


Leave the poor kid alone.  He's got enough problems to deal with already.


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