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Offline Sancho

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« on: May 26, 2002, 02:47:51 AM »
I don't know if people are cheating or the connection sucks, but I'm seeing disappearing planes all the time now.  Planes will vanish, then 10-15 seconds later reappear usually on my six. :p  My squaddies and other people are reporting seeing this a lot too.  Maybe its time for a 'PunkBuster' type app for AH?

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2002, 04:15:54 AM »
Same here I just logged off a few minutes ago and I had two planes dissapear on me in a single sortie while I was coming up from behind them.  

They just vanished and I did not get kill credit for them or anything, like you get if they disco or alt-f4.  I have never seen this before, something is very wrong.  :(

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2002, 06:35:19 AM »
I've been shot down twice within a few minutes by something that seemed to be invisible. Probably just my bad SA, but maybe not?

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2002, 08:10:15 AM »
The extreme warping is probably a bad lag problem.  Don't know about the disappearing act though.  Had it happen to me once within the past week.  Hurricane disappears and no victory message after scoring some hits, though not real good ones (smoking engine and maybe fuel.)  Plane appeared to crash into water flying low and slow.  Was over him in a Zero and overshot.  Would like to give benefit of the doubt though, and regard it as a lag issue.  Probably not hacking, but then, what the heck do I know.  

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2002, 01:18:53 AM »
I had the same thing happen.  Bogie vanished from in front of me, then a little later trancers around my plane.  Did some quick evasives while looking around but couldn't see him.  I brought up the map, zoomed in and couldn't see a red dot anywhere near me even though I could see others.  (So dot-dar was up.)

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2002, 09:17:42 AM »
Same in the CT, sucks, know it wasn't a cheat though.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2002, 01:05:11 AM »
With the new radar system it seems that things under the radar will only show an icon from 3k, say I was 4k near you and dipped  under the radar my icon would disappear until I came close to 3k near you.

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2002, 04:19:31 PM »
Yuppers, saw the same thing Sancho.  Was pumping lead into a p-51 when it disappeared.  I thought the guy pulled the plug on his machine, then about 10 seconds later saw the same guy running over 3k away with a couple friendlies on his tail.  Knew it was the same one by the smoke it was tailing.

I was wondering if somewhere along the line a few update packets are getting dropped by the server or my system, although connect/ping was good on my end.

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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2002, 06:26:46 PM »
I posted an email about this a while back but recieved no response. I later learned why. Here are the details and some guessing on my part.

Your flying and come up to a bandit to shoot him down. Hes in your piper then all of a sudden, "vanish" into thin air. You (in my case at least back then) can actually still kill the bandit if you just pull the trigger and hope for the best. Sometimes I would nail the bandit and other times, he would slip away. This proved to me that the bandit was there. It didnt happen too often and seems to only happen when an enemy plane is in your piper, never a friendly. Never got chance to get film, too busy playing. Well I suffered from this problem for about two months and even whined about it online and in emails.

Solution:

Then one day, I decided to download a video card clocking GUI to increase the performance of my video card. Whola, problem went away. In the process I learned a bit about how ah works as a game at the graphics level by initially over clocking to the point that things like instruments on my cockpity front panel disappeared or updated strangely and differently. Once I found the best clock setting for my video card, all was ok. No more disappearing bandits. I was using the latest GeoForce3 Video card with a slower 333MHZ PC at that time. Perhaos that may have something to do with timeing of objects recieve  within the game.

An example is when you initially log on and are put into a tower of a base. You might see things like enemy P-51s rolling from your base being shot at by acks, or tanks in there place, etc... Then as the load finishes, the objects turn into simply a friendly Yak Spitfire taking off. Acks stop shooting at them because they are now friendly objects. This shows how AH is constructed. I believe that not all attributes or factors of the objects are updated in the same time frame. Such things as plane type (dont need so many updates bcas its a spitfire or not) are less imprtant to updates than x,y,z position and trajectory or instruments. Ack gun operation triggers faster than other game objects and etc... When the net or local timeing in hardware/software is affected somehow, some of this information is not recieved by the local FE and server while some are. Could the object position or some other hi update object type be a "link" status mechanism to the server causing the game to continue without a "host disconnect" in a state that leaves objects from someones local FE causing a disappearing con or invisable bandit.


All the above is guessing as I really no nothing about game programming. Just an observation.

Comments, thoughts, corrections...

Please enlighten if you can. This is interesting stuff.

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2002, 07:08:43 PM »
Well i hope its a connection issue especially as Sancho was one of those who bounced and killed me out of a clear sky tonight :)
Seriously it happened so many times today in the end i just gave up.

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2002, 10:27:08 PM »
Hum, nobody has even tried to attack my far out theory yet Nath[BDP] is being attacked by pimps with guns, jedi mind tricks, drex (a'la proxy) and a bunch of other ah players in the O'club. I'm starting to feel like I could really be onto something here. Wheres that "C++ for dummies" book. I'll also need my "Object Oriented Programming in 21 days" as well as "Elementry Physics for aspiring 3D modelers" book.  A new hacker is born (21 days from now)!

Nath[BDP], you cant dive for speed on a BBS, its impossible.

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2002, 04:26:11 AM »
interesting stuff you're talking about there

im sure that htc is trying to track the problem down. that might account for aurealius being in the arena a lot lately too
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