On HTC, cheaters, stopping cheaters, and the CIA...

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by AKSWulfe
Oh well, as long as Pyro knows about it.. it will probably get fixed (if it poses to be a big problem).
-SW

Oh, you dont think it already is? IMO this issue is more important than 1.10.

[AKSWulfe]

The thing VWE is talking about is different than what you are talking about Hortlund. This "issue" has been resolved by quite a few people, and they have been using Linksys routers. If you are using a Linksys router... then chances are, you can fix it on your end.

What VWE is talking about sounds more like a graphics card corruption, not an actual invisible plane cheat.
-SW

[Hortlund]

Uh?

Right now we have lots of people claiming to have been shot down by invisible planes in the MA.

VWE says he has been able to reproduce this (i e make himself invisible) and when he did, he was invisible to his squaddies. Now, if VWE knows how to reproduce this, what makes you think that others arent able to do the same thing?

To me that sounds like a pretty important issue to fix. Perhaps not to you, but if you look around on this bbs, you will note that there are others that feel otherwise.

[Rude]

Only those players residing across the pond are being affected by the invisible plane phenom....the software is working as designed...case closed.

[AKSWulfe]

VWE is able to make his cockpit invisible to himself... is his plane really invisible to everyone else when he does this?

He's the first one to come forth and announce it... everyone else has just said that an invisible plane shot them down.. no icon, nothing. To VWE, his plane is semi-transparent... is there still an icon above him to everyone else? Why would there be a loss of packet location simply because his cockpit became translucent?

I've seen this bug posted before- a long while back... before the connection problems..., where the cockpit was invisible.. but this has been around for a while.. why the recent upstart of invisible planes?

What I'm saying is that these "invisible planes" are not the same thing as what VWE is saying happening.. and as I said, a lot of the people with these problems have posted they have Linksys routers... and the people who have tried to fix it by opening up more UDP and TCP ports, haven't had problems with invisible planes anymore.

Maybe the rest of the people have firewalls, and these UDP and TCP ports are also being restricted by those. So the problem may very well simply be not enough ports freed up on people's machines.

I have never had this problem, I run a 56K modem, I don't run a firewall when I'm playing AH, so all UDP and TCP ports are basically free.

So again, I say, simply because the cockpit is invisble on his FE and the other planes may or may not be invisible on his FE does not mean he's invisible on other people's FE.
-SW

[Wotan]

people are and misunderstanding the invisible plane thing

Everytime its happened to me or a squadmate "No one gets the kill" we all report (some have films) a 3-5 rapid pings then boom we are in the tower.

The rest I believe are jumping on the bandwagon to explain their piss poor SA.

It almost as if its a "mid-air" collision. And again it has never resulted in "you've been killed by xxx".

vwe why even post your "cryptic" message if not for attention.

go read nopoops post again. If you do know something then keep it between you and ht. Dont come to the board with "ha ha look what I found,,, oop its for me to know and you to find out"

The fact is with 400+ online and massive furballs and the apparrent impact of the current connections (atleast for some) their will be anomalies. Dont be so vain as to think some "cheater" is out there stalking you.

[VWE001]

Calm down, I didn't chime in to be all ha ha I'm special and your not. I just pointed out that it can be done and I tested it to see if it could be repeated. The message was cryptic because there is no need to let the whole world know. Also I think it would be an easy fix if you made this key combo just close the program. I'm not standing on my soap box calling out cheaters, I'm just saying this is what happend to me. Also this may be specific to my OS which is 2000 professional.

[Eagler]

alt F4 always makes my cockpit disappear

if a loser has to resort to such tactics to get a kill, so be it

I'm sure HTC will address it before it gets out of hand

My SA is so poor, I usually couldn't tell you if the plane that  just shot me down was visible or not

[Tumor]

Originally posted by VWE001

 After doing this the only thing visible is are the instruments and a faint outline of your cockpit.

.... hmmmm, I used to get this with my old ATI 8500 at certain resolutions.  Didn't involve the keyboard... actually, I think it would kick in when I hit zoom then backed out again.  Can't remember, but I'm positive it can happen.

...and no, I never took advantage of it.


  I have no idea whether or not it made me invisible to other's, I kinda doubt it.  It appeared to be a graphix glitch on my end.  I did make the appropriate notifications.

  I still think there are invisible planes... I don't think it's intentional and I do believe it's entirely a lag or server issue of some kind.

  I've been flying along and taken damage from what seemed like nothing... no planes around.  I checked my connx and it was terrible, easily enough to explain.

[Voss]

I witnessed the rockets coming out of nowhere. I filmed it, and sent the film to HTC. I'm confident that HTC will fix the problem, but the film probably does not help in that regard (it shows nothing but buildings exploding for no reason).

The posts I've been reading recently, concerning frequent invisible planes, is probably nonsense for the most part. I can tell you that I have killed planes from as far as 3.5k with field ack, and from more than 6k with fleet guns (I tagged Nimitz' Arado from 10k once). I have even knocked the wings off of aircraft with the Shore Battery, and I'm not a great shot. In all of those cases a newbie might well have thought he was killed by an invisible plane. In fact, I can see how hysteria over this issue might make an experienced flier think the same thing.

Probably, ninety-nine percent of the 'invisible plane' claims are mistaken.

But, just to be on the safe side my film is rolling.

[Hangtime]

hitting enter 3x makes my plane invisible.

[Tumor]

Originally posted by Voss
I witnessed the rockets coming out of nowhere. I filmed it, and sent the film to HTC. I'm confident that HTC will fix the problem, but the film probably does not help in that regard (it shows nothing but buildings exploding for no reason).

The posts I've been reading recently, concerning frequent invisible planes, is probably nonsense for the most part. I can tell you that I have killed planes from as far as 3.5k with field ack, and from more than 6k with fleet guns (I tagged Nimitz' Arado from 10k once). I have even knocked the wings off of aircraft with the Shore Battery, and I'm not a great shot. In all of those cases a newbie might well have thought he was killed by an invisible plane. In fact, I can see how hysteria over this issue might make an experienced flier think the same thing.

Probably, ninety-nine percent of the 'invisible plane' claims are mistaken.

But, just to be on the safe side my film is rolling.

Hahah... forgot about that.  I've plugged a few plans with CV guns from WAY WAY out.  Just by using a little educated guess about thier altitude and dumb luck.  Hit a plane with the Big guns on accident once too lol.. now that was funny and I'll bet someone thought it was an inviso-plane hehe.  Poor fella was just flying along... I had a pretty good arc going and suddenly I saw a hit sprite ...

[Sandman]

Originally posted by wulfie
A long time ago my Brother helped to catch a guy who was cheating in WB. Remember how very early in WB you didn't have ordnance package #s? How you typed ".bomb 500 2" to put 2 500 lb. bombs on your aircraft, assuming it could carry this?

Well, very early in the WB code this guy was flying the F6F all the time and typing ".bomb 500 -2" and taking 1000 lbs. off the weight of his F6F.

IMNSHO, this is not cheating. This is gaming the game.

And the player was banned for this?

[SirLoin]

When I first started playing AH I was using a TNT2 Ultra.One version of it's drivers gave me a transparent cockpit.(I could see cons through the instrument panel and plane structure)..It also allowed me to see cons through mountains and when I would chase a plane on the deck,the nme would go invisable when it was less than 100ft off the ground.

I made several posts on this and was advised to change drivers and disable something on my card which fixed it.I don't know if this has anything to do with it,but that was the only time I ever saw in invisable plane...