bish 101 knights 49 rooks 51

[Nifty]

I only read these threads to see all the reactions...  

[airhap]

Originally posted by sling322
What Airhap doesnt tell you is that when these numbers were present it was right before a Bishop reset during the middle of the day on Monday.  Of course the Knits and Rooks have less players, cause we were pounding the Knits and the Rooks were jumping over to help us cause they thought they could get perk points too.  

If you wanna post whines about numbers and being outnumbered, at least qualify your data by telling what the situation in the arena at the time was.  To just simply come in here and post this withouth the qualifier that the reset was imminent is just moronic.

sling's comments are what i referred to when i said "i didn't know."

as far as needing a "clue."  if you say so.


airhap

[Gremlin]

<< Sits at my desk, wondering how I'd get through it all without my daily fix of BBS madness to keep me sane:D

If it wern't for the BBS whiners I'd actually have to do some work.

WHine on Dude's

[Staga]

Whine?

Maybe but for a good reason.
People play these games because they like 'em. You can be sure there are more frustrated players who just keep their mouths shut and hope situation changes someday.
When they run out of patience they have two possibilities: Change country or leave game.

First option is bad for gameplay and second one is bad for HTC. Which one you like more ?

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by lazs2
I think it takes a lot of courage to fly under a huge dildo icon.
lazs

I think it takes a lot of courage to say it takes a lot of courage to play a game    

[poopster]

LOL lazs

Outnumbered ?

Think "local superiority"

[AKWarp]

You're right leviathn,  but you just keep responding to them anyway and telling us all how inane it is and how you are sick of seeing it...so, who's whining about what?  The real question is, does it really matter?  is it really that important in life to worry about who is whining about what and then try to insert your own brand of how things should be?

I don't regularly come in here and whine about numbers...but ever now and again I get the urge to be antagonistic for no other reason than to be....well, antagonistic.

Frankly, I could care less about the numbers.  If my country is being overwhelmed and I get frustrated, I just log off.  

I only come in here and whine about those whining about the whiners, because it just makes you guys whine all the more.  

Something along that pot, kettle, black thing...........

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by AKWarp
You're right leviathn,  but you just keep responding to them anyway and telling us all how inane it is and how you are sick of seeing it...so, who's whining about what?  The real question is, does it really matter?  is it really that important in life to worry about who is whining about what and then try to insert your own brand of how things should be?

[/B]

It matters to me because it not only clutters up the forums, but it also pervades Channel 1.  I don't want to hear some moron grousing about people hopping sides, or how unfair the numbers are.  You won't hear people posting things like "I think the numbers are fair and balanced," nor will you hear people attack others for flying in a fair and balanced fashion, because those who believe that are already content.  In that sense, whining about numbers takes on a far more antagonist tone than the counter to it.

The fact is also that very few good ideas have been offered to "fix" this supposed problem, so we have whining for its own sake.

I don't regularly come in here and whine about numbers...but ever now and again I get the urge to be antagonistic for no other reason than to be....well, antagonistic.

[/B]

Then I'm sure Pyro loves you.

I only come in here and whine about those whining about the whiners, because it just makes you guys whine all the more.

[/B]

I'm sure he loves you doubly so now.

Something along that pot, kettle, black thing...........

I wish I had a nickel for every time someone used this cliched old analogy to inaccurately describe something.  When I start abusing people on Channel 1 for flying AH in the manner of their choosing, for whichever side they prefer, regardless of the numbers, then we'll talk.  Until then, numbers whining shares the primary characteristic of most proactive whines... it cares what I'm doing with my $15, and it wants to change things.

Pointing this out is hardly "whining about whining," the classic comeback of the unclever troll or the proactive whiner without merits to his own argument.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Tumor]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying

Until then, numbers whining shares the primary characteristic of most proactive whines... it cares what I'm doing with my $15, and it wants to change things.
-- Todd/Leviathn

So what about the changes HTC makes?  Not trying to fan any flames here (or single you out Lev) but I don't get why it's so bad for people to make a suggestion about balancing the arena, or perking planes or WHATEVER.  I've never seen HTC make even a passing comment on trying to balance the arena's... therefore I don't think it's worth getting upset about.

[AKcurly]

We have folks from all time zones participating in Aces High.  Check the MA arena around 8am CST [GMT-6, maybe 2 pm there?] and you'll see lots of Europeans and Asians.  It is a rare morning when the Bishops are outnumbered.  Therefore, anyone who regularly flies at this time will feel there are too many Bishop.

Except for a two week period, the Bishop have been consistently outnumbered around 8 pm CST for the past 3 months.  Most of the time, Knights have more than either Bishop or Rook and occasionally will match the Bishop and Rook numbers. Occasionally, Rook numbers will exceed Knight numbers.

We are all participating in an on-line war game.  Targets are good!  If you are Bishop and see: 70 Bishop, 140 Knights, 120 Rooks, that means the Bishops got lucky!  We have 260 guys to shoot at. while the Knights and Rooks will only have 70.  Of course, the outnumbered side (be it bish, rook or nit) will be jumped on by the other two in an attempt to reset the map.

I honestly believe that anyone who complains about numbers should take up croquet instead of Aces High.  Think of the advantages of croquet:  1) You get big balls to use and 2) you can whack your opponent over the head with a mallet.

curly

[robsan]

Hi airhap, judging by your 7 posts, I guess you haven't flown Aces High that long.

I myself am also a newbie with about two months of online flying under my belt.

I fly for Knights at Euro Times and usually experience the same 101 Bishops, 49 Knights and 51 Rooks deal night after night.

Before I put up my own suggestions to fix the unbalancing, I'd like to thank the seasoned "1000+ posts" guys on this forum for simply calling airhap a whiner and leaving it at that.

That really helped...


Now for my suggestions:

1.) Those who log on to Aces High for the first time, are put into the team with the fewest numbers at that time.

2.) When you log on, you will be asked to join the team with the fewest numbers. Should you agree to do so, you will recieve some sort of reward (perk points, or a free ride in a perk plane etc).

Those are things HTC can do, now on to something that is way harder...

Things YOU can do:

1.) If your Country constantly has the numbers advantage when you log on (time-zone specific), simply switch sides to the team with the fewest numbers.
Note: concerning "friends" and the "I fly for country X because I've always flown for them/the others suck" argument
a.) all countries are the same
b.) you'll find new friends in any country
c.) ask your friends to come along with you and help change the imbalance together

2.) Squads: Analyze the Arena-numbers when your squad, or most of them, usually fly - if your squad is on the team which has the numbers more often than not when online - switch sides.

3.) Countries: if your combined numbers are equal/lower than those of the third country stop fightig each other and fight the other country together.

[Duedel]

HEY ROBSAN!!!!

Biste endlich wieder da? Klasse! Heute abend?

[SLO]

only difference is that knights NEVER NEVER get more the bish/rooks numbers combined.....................

rooks NEVER NEVER get more numbers then knit/bish combined..............

but as too BISH.......many many times (ET)....i see bish with more numbers then knits/rooks combined......

i like cheese with my whine.....thx u

SLO:cool:
4 WING =441 Silver Fox=

[robsan]

yo Duedel

Jup, bin wieder im Lande.

Hab leider volles Programm diese Woche...

Tennis heute um 21 Uhr
Band Probe morgen ab 19 Uhr
Gesangsunterricht freitag um 20:15

... werde aber versuchen zwischendrin mal zu fliegen

Wochenends hab ich allerdings sturmfrei - da wirds auch wieder klappen mit dem Nachb... erm Aces High...

bis denne,

[Duedel]

Guck mal auf's Message Board unter http://www.me109.net. Hat sich einiges getan als du weg warst (sind jetzt 9 im Squad).

Freue mich schon mit dir zu fliegen.