Planes I'd like to see perked (I wish, heh :))

[straffo]

I'm too lazy to make my own comment

But if you do a search on Rolling Perk Set you will find plenty of discution about this setup ( if I've understood correctly...)

[xHaMmeRx]

First, I don't mind the idea, but then I like the pure rolling plane set, too.  The rolling perk method, however, would seem to favor long-time players who have a few perks to burn without worrying too much about it.  Players with a nice stockpile of perk points would fly around in their normal late-war rides taking advantage of the new players who are carefully hording their points waiting for that day they can afford a Spit XIV

Don't get me wrong.  I for one don't mind the seeking of ideas to add a little variety to what we see in the MA.  I like the idea of the CT, but it's not populated enough to hold my interest for long.  I've never flown in a RPS environment, but it doesn't sound too bad.  I also understand the "I've paid to fly what I want" argument.  But discussions like this are where new ideas come from and sooner or later a workable idea will pop up.

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[Ghosth]

Hitech won't do a rolling plane set IMO.
IT was an experiment gone horribly wrong.

RPS was the single handed cause of more whineing than any other single issue for warbirds for 3 years!

HT came up with the perk plane system as a direct
defense against the RPS.

Disclaimer, HT has not told me this word for word.
But it is knowledge gleemed from a lot of things he's said over the years.

Give up the RPS idea guys, he won't do it.

Lobby for lower perk prices for seldom flown planes. Lobby to perk planes that are overflown. Those he'll listen to.

[Nifty]

1941 planes are free in Rip's proposal.  *checks dates*  Spit V is a 1941 plane...  

I'm all for it!  

[AvidMC]

PERK THE P47 D30???? ARE YOU INSANE MAN!!!!!!!!

Avid

[MrWulf]

Personally, I  dont mind the perk sysytem, it just needs to be fine tuned is all  ie. perk all the planes with low env value  N1K, La7 , and Spit 9 fit into this class for sure. Never undrstood why Chog got perked, yet the spit9, N1k, and La7 didnt, all 4 have more strenghts than weaknesses..perk em.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Perk LA7(speed and 3 canons, turns good too), G10(UFO climb and speed), D9(speed and acceleration), N1k1(turn and 4 canons).

Don't perk P51D, I know it's fast but it was available in great numbers and doesn't carry any pingpingcrack canons.
Don't perk typhy, even if it has devastative canons and ubber speed, it's stall characteristiques make it useless to the comon turnfighter.

Perk the D30? heuuu ... Half of the planeset outrun it, the other half outturn it, some do both... all outaccelerate it and outclimb it. I think you want it perked because of it's load out. I don't think it's necessary, the pilot who goes hvy pays the price ... it's like a 25k B17 mission, it takes you for ever to reach 13k and you have to jettision everything if u encounter a single fighter between your base and the target.

[HFMudd]

Maybe instead trying to come up with ways of force the people who fly the Niks, LA-7's and Spits for their $14.95 a month we need try to come up with a better reward for using the high ENY value planes.

This reward would have be something tangable that even those who are not so good can aspire to.  I suspect that the balance of people who play the game generate 10 or less perks per hour of play.  (It would be interesting to know the true number.)

I admit I've no idea what this reward might be though.

[RRAM]

Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Perk LA7(speed and 3 canons, turns good too), G10(UFO climb and speed), D9(speed and acceleration), N1k1(turn and 4 canons).

Don't perk P51D, I know it's fast but it was available in great numbers and doesn't carry any pingpingcrack canons.
Don't perk typhy, even if it has devastative canons and ubber speed, it's stall characteristiques make it useless to the comon turnfighter.

Perk the D30? heuuu ... Half of the planeset outrun it, the other half outturn it, some do both... all outaccelerate it and outclimb it. I think you want it perked because of it's load out. I don't think it's necessary, the pilot who goes hvy pays the price ... it's like a 25k B17 mission, it takes you for ever to reach 13k and you have to jettision everything if u encounter a single fighter between your base and the target.

Reason for my perk list was inservice date, not performance. P47D30 is a very very late'44 plane, and P51D is contemporary to 109G10 and 190D9. As such, both are included in my list.


P.S. I like Ripsnort's idea.

[popeye]

So....we want to restrict the planes that give newbies a fighting chance, to players who have mastered the game sufficiently to accumulate perk points?

[easymo]

The only real, perkable plane i have seen in this game is the jet.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Oh ok Ram, then you also need to perk

A6M5b      Jan-44
Fw 190A-8   Jan-44
Fw 190F-8   Mar-44
Yak-9U      Mar-44
F4U-1D      Apr-44
P-47D-25      Jun-44
F6F-5      Jul-44
P-38L      Jul-44

if you wish to stick with the P51D with a 3 month range
P-51D      Mar-44

Popeye, I ear you, but flying a Spit Erzatz will not teach you how to fly in AH anyway. I'd say the best school is the P47
. When I fly a spit like now or a very fast plane, I say WoW ... cool. Everything looks easy, except my gunery who still sucks.

[SunKing]

Osti might not be a bad idea.. everyones killed by list is topped by that dealer of death. Plus we need a vehicle perk.

[Roscoroo]

I think they should perk Fester's hairdryer to at least 1000 .. or award 200 perkies just for shooting it down

[Karnak]

Originally posted by HFMudd:
Maybe instead trying to come up with ways of force the people who fly the Niks, LA-7's and Spits for their $14.95 a month we need try to come up with a better reward for using the high ENY value planes.

This reward would have be something tangable that even those who are not so good can aspire to. I suspect that the balance of people who play the game generate 10 or less perks per hour of play. (It would be interesting to know the true number.)

I admit I've no idea what this reward might be though.

How being able to actually spend the perk points you win and have fun at the same time?  For most players taking off in a F4U-4 Corsair, Spitfire Mk XIV, Ta152H-1 or Tempest Mk V is a death sentence.  They aren't good enough to survive the gangbang that the icons call in on them, and it isn't fun to pay hard earned points to experience your own personal gangbang.  Because of that perk points are quite worthless as a reward as things stand now, and that makes the high ENY vs. low ENY choice moot.

Make perk points fun for the non-Festers to spend and ENY values might matter to the general mass of players.

The F4U-4 Corsair's icon is F4U4, it should be F4U.
The Spitfire Mk XIV's icon is SPIT14, it should be SPIT.
The Ta152H-1's icon is 152, it should be 190.
The Tempest Mk V's icon is TEMP, it should be TYPH.

That would make these aircraft fun to use and make perk points a desirable reward.  The whole key is fun.