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Offline MOSQ

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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2002, 01:02:00 PM »
I agree that we should have the P-39D and P-63A-10 in the planeset. They were important planes historically, and would be fun JABO planes here.
For additional on these planes I found these websites especially informative:

http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/aircraft/kngcobra.htm

http://www.ophetweb.nl/ww2w/ww2htmls/bellp63.html

Bring the P-39 / P-63 to Aces High !
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Offline Sleight

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2002, 01:36:47 PM »
From Chuck Yeager's autobiography:

'Just give me a P-39/With an engine that's mounted behind/it'll tumble and roll and dig a big hole/just give me a P-39.'

Flight characteristics should be modeled accurately.
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Offline superpug1

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2002, 02:22:45 PM »
37 mm. Ooooooohhh. ( as he froths at the mouth). like yak only with more machine guns for anti fighter crap.:D
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Offline Daff

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2002, 02:23:41 PM »
"'Just give me a P-39/With an engine that's mounted behind/it'll tumble and roll and dig a big hole/just give me a P-39.' "

Ah yes...that's a high quality source. The P-39 'tumble' was a myth.

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Offline EvilDingo

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2002, 07:36:21 PM »
I think the best version of the P-39 was the Q-10 (or was it Q-20?). It had the two extra .50 gun pods in the wings omitted thus improving the roll rate and top speed. Armament consisted of 2 .50s in the nose and the 37mm.

The P-39 Q-5, Q-10, Q-20, and Q-15 were the largest production runs in the Q series. (Which in turn was the highest production run of any version)

If we got the P-39 in Aces High, I'd like to see the 3 major revisions modeled. Or maybe just 2 versions with an optional loadout for gunpods. :)

Actually, ANY version would be nice.
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2002, 08:22:49 PM »
I want a P39D or P400 as used by US Army forces in the early Pacific war.  I just find that period facinating with battles between P40s, some P36s, and P39s against Zeros.
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Offline udet

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2002, 09:53:43 AM »
the soviets would have flown anything just to make more Luftwaffe aces :)
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Offline Kweassa

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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2002, 11:31:40 AM »
It was certainly very interesting to fly P-39s in IL-2: Sturmovik. The different concept between 'native' VVS fighters and the P-39 clearly stood out. I would love to see a P-39 in AH too.
 
 P-39N-5 or P-39Q-14
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Offline Dr Zhivago

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2002, 01:15:19 PM »
Why they didnt  mounted that cannon between the cylinder heads and then firing through the propeller hub... or Allison engine just couldnt be fitted with cannon like german junkers and DB engines ?

Russian P-39 would be cool :)
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Offline Tony Williams

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2002, 11:11:37 PM »
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Why they didnt  mounted that cannon between the cylinder heads and then firing through the propeller hub... or Allison engine just couldnt be fitted with cannon like german junkers and DB engines ?
 


It seems very likely that the Allison design wouldn't allow this (any more than the Merlin would). It was a constraint on the engine designer to allow a blast tube running between the cylinder banks, and it wouldn't be done unless there was a specific military request to make it possible.

In the case of the P-39, the 37mm M4 was a very bulky gun which could never have fitted in the narrow tube which was all that could be allowed through the engine. Guns designed for engine mounting (like the NS-37) were very slim.

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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2002, 11:32:51 PM »
The supercharger on Allisons and Merlins was on the rear of the engine unlike that of the German DB and JUMOs, which had them on the side.  Maybe this had something to do with it.
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Offline eddiek

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Gotta dig out the report, but.......
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2002, 11:55:21 PM »
When the US tested the A6M2 agasint the P-39, F4U-1, and I believe the F4F (will look up the document, am in the process of moving right now) the P-39 actually outclimbed the Zero from sea level to 10K.  Kinda shocked me, will scan and post the report when I get settled in my new house next week.
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Offline nuchpatrick

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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2002, 03:02:01 PM »
I to agree it would be nice to have.. though the P-39(P-400) was a dog compared to the US A/C inventory....THough fromw hat I read it was a good ground attack A/C.

Heres a cool pict to boot..
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Offline laz

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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2002, 04:09:47 PM »
And then... theres a p38F, or p61b.... Opps.. Wrong thread.. SORRY ;)
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