Need info on crashes

[Pyro]

A number of people have been reporting dumps to desktops or lock ups in 1.03.  We're trying to gather as much information as we can on the issue.  If this has happened to you, please take a minute to fill out this questionaire in order to help us track down the problem.

Please answer the following questions in your reply.
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1- Are you experiencing crashes or lockups? -

2- When did they begin, what version and patch? -

3- How often do they occur? -

4- Any other information about them? -

5- What your CPU type and is it overclocked? -

6- What is your video card and driver version? -

7- What is your sound card and driver version? -

8- What version of DirectX do you have installed? -

9- What is your joystick setup, i.e. type of stick, throttle, and pedals, usb? -

10- Do you use Roger Wilco and if so, what version? -



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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations

[Hristo]

These are not actually lockups, but freezes.

1- 2-5 seconds lockups, once or twice every sortie

2- they were always there, in earlier versions it also caused sound bugs

3- every sortie

4- they make me auger someties  

It started with 0.4x version

in earlier versions it was sound connected: if the gear down sound was to be played, game freezed for few seconds (auger)

sometimes gun sound caused same problem

rarely new plane icon appearing caused minor lockup


5- 333 @ 416

6- ASUS V3400 TNT, original drivers

7- MX 300, original drivers

8- DX 7a (something like that)

9- TM F22, TQS, Elite rudder pedals, Stickworks digital upgrade

10- cc on RW, never caused any problem though, Mark I

11- yes, I want the Dora in AH



[This message has been edited by Hristo (edited 07-10-2000).]

[Udie]

Pyro,

 I had been getting alot of lockups. Almost everytime I played the game it would lock up.  It happened mainly in the hangar while I was selecting something, but would sometimes happen in flight or in the twr.

 I reinstalled windows last week to see if it would help.  I still got the lockups same as before. But since saturday I havn't had any lockups at all.  The only thing I can think that is diferent is the drivers for my viper 770 tnt2 ultra 32.  I got the new drivers for it friday and satyurday, and I think that's when the lockups stopped.

udie

[Wanker]

1- Are you experiencing crashes or lockups? -
Yes, only crashes. No lockups(yet)

2- When did they begin, what version and patch? - 1.03, patch two or three(to the best of my recollection)

3- How often do they occur? - Two situations, mostly: Either right away when I press the "fly" button, or if I get by that, then whenever I get within 1K of a con, entering a fight.

4- Any other information about them? - Happens online and off, and isn't always caused by the above situations. I've experienced them just by rolling otr, or by watching a film.

5- What your CPU type and is it overclocked? - Intel PIII-550 Coppermine(Slot One). Yes, is over-clocked to 733mhz, and has been for over 4 months without any problems with AH or any other app. I have also tried running AH with the CPU at the unclocked speed of 550mhz, but have experienced the exact same dumps.

6- What is your video card and driver version? -Guillemot Prophet 3D DDR-DVI GeForce. Currently use Guillemot driver v5.22, but have also tried the older 3.77 and 3.72, all with the same result in AH 1.03

7- What is your sound card and driver version? -SB Live, 3.0 Liveware, with the latest(5/22/00) SB LIVE driver for Win98.

8- What version of DirectX do you have installed? -7.0a

9- What is your joystick setup, i.e. type of stick, throttle, and pedals, usb? -CH Products Pro Throttle, Pro Pedals, Janes CombatStick. Non-USB.

10- Do you use Roger Wilco and if so, what version? -Yes, RW .54 beta

Thank you for this thread, Pyro. I was beginning to think that I was the only one having these problems.

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P/O banana
XO 308(Polish) Sqn "City of Cracow" RAF

[This message has been edited by banana (edited 07-10-2000).]

[Condor_SBM]

1- Are you experiencing crashes or lockups?
Firing locks up (sound & tracers) only when less than 1K from a con. At times, able to get some rounds off by multiple trigger pulls. Same behavior when using keyboard command.

2- When did they begin, what version and patch?
Version 1.03, patch three. This started about the same time the new Tour of Duty began.

3- How often do they occur?
Only when I am within 1K of a con and always at that point.

4- Any other information about them? -
Happens in both MA and Alternate MA. All other control functions seem to be fine. There seems to be a bit more lagging generally, but I can't say that its significantly higher. Framerate often appears to remain steady even when fire locked up, although once or twice, screen has briefly frozen.

5- What your CPU type and is it overclocked?
PII 450. ASUS Board. Not overclocked. No prior problems with AH until now. No problems with other software, including online.

6- What is your video card and driver version?
Twin Diamond Monster 3D II - 4.10.01.0207 [latest drivers]-- this is primary card. Also have Diamond Viper 550 16 MB AGP with updated drivers. Same behavior.

7- What is your sound card and driver version?
SoundBlaster AWE 64 - updated drivers.


8- What version of DirectX do you have installed? -7.0a

9- What is your joystick setup, i.e. type of stick...
Saitek USB - updated drivers, etc.

10- Do you use Roger Wilco and if so, what version? -Yes, latest beta

Other info -- I run cable modem with no noticeable problems in other applications. No changes to software or hardware since this began. Pinging hitech site usually averages about 70-90 ms. --- Thanks for your help!

[Dago]

1- Are you experiencing crashes or lockups? -

Lot of lockups. At least one per session.

2- When did they begin, what version and patch? - Once in a great while before, but since 1.03 very often.

                         
 4- Any other information about them? -

5- What your CPU type and is it overclocked?
AMD K6-2 400mhz, not oc.

6- What is your video card and driver version? -  Diamond Viper 550

7- What is your sound card and driver version? - Diamond MX300

8- What version of DirectX do you have installed? - 7.something

9- What is your joystick setup, i.e. type of stick, throttle, and pedals, usb? -

CH F16 Combatstick, CH Prothrottle, CH standard rudder pedals

10- Do you use Roger Wilco and if so, what version? - Use it sometimes.  0.54

[Wardog]

Hard Lockups.

Very random. Can be on for 2 hours and it wont lockup. or can be on for 10 minutes and it will lockup. This is a hard luckup. I need to kill the power.

1.Hard Luckup.........

2. Version 1.03

3. Very random. can be 10 minutes or 2 days.

4.Must kill power,cant ALT TAB or ALT F4..

5. AMD K6-2 450 not O/C

6.Hercules TNT 16meg, had latest driver,but went back 3 versions. Still locks up.

7.AWE 64 latest Creative Labs version. And its old.

8. DX7.1a

9. CH products F16 Combat Stick.Jstick throttle.

Was using the version of RW that came with AH,but as of yesterday i Minumise AH and close RW. Not enough time in air since to see if i am still gona lockup.


These are Hard Lockups.. I must kill power to system. This only started with 1.03 and has carried over into the last 2 patches..

Dog out....

[buhdman]

Pyro,

1- Are you experiencing crashes or lockups? -

A. Complete computer lockup when doing Alt-Tab where desktop and game are NOT at same resolution/color depth.  If both are at the same depth/resolution, things work fine.

B. Occasional lockup when assigning keys, usually after having flown for a while or after having exited an arena and entered a new one.

2- When did they begin, what version and patch? -

Since Version 2 at least

3- How often do they occur? -

A. Always if resolutions are different.  This is reproducible.

B. Reproducible.  To reproduce do the following:

a. Start AH and go online to main arena.
b. Click on SETUP, then set a global key (I use RW key).
c. Select OK.
d. Quit the arena.
e. Re-enter the arena.
f. Click on SETUP and attempt to set RW key, again.  My system locks solid at this point and I have to reboot.

4- Any other information about them? -

 5- What your CPU type and is it overclocked? -

Pentium II - 450 not overclocked

6- What is your video card and driver version? -

Viper 550 using Riva Reference Drivers 4.12.01.0522 (same result with DiamondMM drivers)

7- What is your sound card and driver version? -

Yamaha Version 9-17-98

PDPI L4 Game Port

8- What version of DirectX do you have installed? -

DirectX 7.0A

9- What is your joystick setup, i.e. type of stick, throttle, and pedals, usb? -

Thrustmaster: PFCS, WCS-II, RCS

10- Do you use Roger Wilco and if so, what version? -

Version 0.54

buhdman, out

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Walt (buhdman) Barrow
(formerly lt-buhd-lite)
The Buccaneers - "Return with Honor"
home.earthlink.net/~wjbarrow


[This message has been edited by buhdman (edited 07-10-2000).]

[jihad]

#1. Yes

#2. Beta,but frequency of hard lock ups are more common in current version.

#3. Almost every time I fly,on or offline. Seems related to GUI clipboard functions mostly.

#4. Sometimes lock ups are accompanied by a high pitched whining sound.

#5. Celeron 466@525mhz,I have tried higher/lower voltage CPU settings as well as running at 466mhz-no apparent change in frequency of lock ups.

#6. Diamond V770 TNT2 32 mb, Diamond driver version 4.10.01.0401

#7. Creative SBLive Value, Liveware 3.0

#8. DX 7.0a

#9. Logitech Digital Extreme 3D w/TM Elite rudder pedals,using SBLive gameport.

#10. Roger Wilco version 0.54.

[crabofix]

1- Are you experiencing crashes or lockups? -
yes, hardlockups with a completly locked computer

2- When did they begin, what version and patch? -
1.2

3- How often do they occur? -
after about 30 min.

4- Any other information about them? -
In 1.2 only when I used 1280 resulotion
But strangely now, in 1.3 it locks up in 1024
but not in 1280

5- What your CPU type and is it overclocked? celeron 500, not overclocked

6- What is your video card and driver version? -
asus 3800 tnt ultra de luxe

7- What is your sound card and driver version? -
sb pci 128
8- What version of DirectX do you have installed? -7.0 a

9- What is your joystick setup, i.e. type of stick, throttle, and pedals, usb? -
Microsoft sidewinder 3d pro
10- Do you use Roger Wilco and if so, what version? -


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[Tac]

I dont get lockups or crashes but I do oftenly get dumped to windows with Roger Wilco blinking for attention.

I click on AH icon on taskbar and i'm back.

Specs:

P2 300 96 RAM
Voodoo 3 2000 16meg ram
Lotsa HD space free
98% sys resources (only cable modem and RW running besides the game).
I dont overclock anything.
Latest drivers for video and sound & DirectX 7.0a
Latest version of RW (DL'd after I re-downloaded the AH game).
Thrustmaster Top Gun Joystick (who said I was cheap?   )

[Hangtime]

Multiple hard lockups.. often!

Ver 1.03; all patches.

Celeron 466; 128 megRAM, no oc. Win98; patched up to current OSR.

Viper 770/32 meg AGP (not ultra). Lockups occured on currently available riva/diamond driver sets from Diamonds website. Lockups ceased when older diamond driver sets were reinstalled. Sadly; frame rates and overall graphics display were sharper with the newer riva/diamond drivers, but AH would lock.. so I uninstalled them. (ran three installed/uninstalled tests) Currently running stable again with Diamond driver ver 4.11.01.0402

Note; this 'stable' driver is no longer on diamonds website! If any of you need a copy; email me. (note: these drivers are NOT for the 770 Ultra.. no 'oc' feature in 'In Control Tools')

Sound card is AWE32; current driver set from website.

DX7.a installed.

Hope this helps...

Hang

[Luckyone]

The only time I've had any thing go wrong like locking up or being booted to deck top was right after the reset to our current tour
I think it discoed me about 4 times in the P47, once the p47 became available, At first it would not even let the P47 launch from any where and then..well, other ac seemed fine.
I've made no changes to hardware or software and All seemes fine now.

ao2 out

[Luckyone]

 

Originally posted by Luckyone:
The only time I've had any thing go wrong like locking up or being booted to desk top was right after the reset to our current tour
I think it discoed me about 4 times in the P47, once the p47 became available, At first it would not even let the P47 launch from any where and then..well, other ac seemed fine.
I've made no changes to hardware or software and All seemes fine now.

ao2 out

[bloom25]

I was just reading this thread and noticed that almost everyone who is having this problem is using a Nvidia chipset videocard along with a SB card.  (Some have MX300 though.)

I'm not having either of these problems with my 770Ultra (Diamond 4.02) and AQ2500 Vortex 2 card (Aureal newest reference driver).  At first glance I'd say there is likely something going on between the Nvidia cards and the SB cards.  (I'd lean toward a problem with the SB drivers myself.)  Have any of you tried to do a clean reinstall of both your video and soundcard drivers?



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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS