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Offline Alino

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« on: July 04, 2002, 03:17:44 AM »
Can anyone tell me how to hit a Target with this new bombingmodell. I have calibrated everything like it is specificated in the new manuel, but my Bombs are going Miles out of the Target.
Any good suggestions?
I think i dont like this new bombingmodell. Not really.

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Offline tofri at work

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2002, 03:56:03 AM »
Hi Alino :)

any change of flight hight or speed will affect your calibration.

Up to now we were used to climb to the target, jump to the bombardier position and release the eggs.

This will not work any more.
If you go from climb to level flight, the bomber will gain speed for several minutes.
If you open the bomb doors the bomber wil loose speed.
If you maneuver aligning the calibrated bombsight with your target, you loose speed.
All this make pinpoint bombing impossible.

First thing is to make a long bomb carpet.
A delay of about 0.3-0.4 seems to be good.

Release the bombs about 2-4 hangar lenghts  behind the hangar.
Usually you had lost speed with aligning on the target , so vou have to aim 'over' the target.
This I used for a height of 10k over ground.

I usually level and align 1 sector before the target.
Half sector distance I go to bombardier position and enter cal mode.
Then I open the Bomb doors.
Clicking the target on the clipboard map will give
me the target height.
Next aim with the bombsight the target and press the calibration key for two seconds.
Then I leave the calibration mode.
The bomb sight will now be set on the estimated point.
You can align the bomber on the target. But if you turn to hard you loose speed.

This way your bombs will come close to the target.

CYA Tofri

Offline osage

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2002, 04:31:26 AM »
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Originally posted by tofri at work

Usually you had lost speed with aligning on the target , so vou have to aim 'over' the target.


Bombsight alignment course changes, unless drastic, appear to have minimal effect on speed.

It looks like B-17s will accelerate for 5 minutes+ at level flight (12-15K alt).  Bomb bay door drag is modeled too so you have to open the doors for a few mins before calibrating.  I seem to always find my bombs falling 20 yds long even when I think I had calibrated at max speed with doors open.

Turning around to make another pass is the real squeak.

The complexity of these different factors makes accurate bombing extremely difficult (especially on the second pass, where you may have to do some serious guesstimation).  But I expect we will see some virtuosos emerge in the next couple of weeks.

Great release!

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2002, 04:44:44 AM »
there is also an altitude calibration to make !!!

when ur in cal mode pull up the kneeboard ( map) and mouse clic the target this will automatically  calibrate the targets alt  with your bomber alt .
then do the rest of your calibration... the hold crosshairs in static ground object while pressing the secondary key for 2 seconds..
 Ive managed to  get my bombs on target  1 outta 4 attempts so far ...  I suggest the h2h rooms or offline for practice .
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Offline Griego

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2002, 04:53:26 AM »
Then try doing all this while a con is on your SIX LOL yea right.

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2002, 04:53:41 AM »
Thanks for mentioning the alt calib.

I think Tofri is right about setting your delay a little longer than the default and pickling early to get more of a "carpet" effect

And it's a good idea to load a b-17 with 12 500s rather than 6 1000s.

That way you can put 9 500s 4 times on hangars.

Offline Xjazz

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2002, 05:04:27 AM »
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Originally posted by Griego
Then try doing all this while a con is on your SIX LOL yea right.


Where is your gunner? Where is your escort?

Try some team work first...

Days of lone wolf buff at 38k with pinpoint hits are over.

S! HTC!

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Offline Kweassa

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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2002, 05:06:07 AM »
go to the help forum and look up my post where I totally explained all this.

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2002, 09:26:32 AM »
This is what I did.
I picked a Lancaster, and the bombsight did not work:(
Well, 3 Lancasters actually.
So, I opened doors, Dived onto target, went to external mode, and dropped half my load. Flew a few miles, turned carefully around and repeated before returning to base.
42 1000lbs bombs landed on the field, causing immense damage, although I did not hit what I wanted.
So, the times of carpet bombing have arrived!!!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

Offline Pongo

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2002, 10:54:17 AM »
Get to the alt you want to bomb at.
note the throttle setting..(calibrate at 3/4 throttle and you will have more time over the field)
open your doors. let the plane slow down.
You will have to bomb at this altitude and this speed to be effecitve.
Go to the bomb sight
Go to calibrate mode.
Pick a spot on the ground.. ( I watch for a nice mark target as I fly) As far as I know the alt of the calbrate target is irellivent. Only how closely you match your speed and alt at drop to your speed and alt at calibration
Use the joystick to put the cross hairs on it.
Let the cross hairs settle in for a sec till your steady.
Hold down the mark key for as long as you can.
(5 seconds is easy)
When you release the mark key it will tell you to click on the target on the map to put the target alt in..

.. leave calibrate mode by hiting calibrate key again.

now
If you had a very steady mark..
and if you fly at the speed you where at and the alt you where at during the calibration, and if you are reasobnably steady during your drop, you can still hit very accuratly...

you can definatly take out acks at 10k with 100 pound bombs..I got three in my first pass with 3 bombs...and there are 3 of you dropping...

You can certainly do several passes at a base just like you used too. but you have to do the long bomb runs that are described..cause you have to get back to our alt and speed almost perfectly..

Totaly different bombing game...


this system is a blast...
Thanks HTC.

Offline osage

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2002, 09:37:44 PM »
Wind is also a factor in the calibration, so even though you are calibrated for speed and altitude, your wind calibration will cause you to be off if you make a drop from another direction.

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2002, 03:57:36 AM »
Thank you for all helping Post`s.

Special Thank to Kweassa. He did real great work for us all.
His very helpfull Explanation is posted at the Helpforum.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57667