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Offline Obear1971

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« on: July 09, 2002, 06:32:36 AM »
If you havent allready, get yourselfe a copy of "WILD BLUE" writen by the same chap that wrote Band Of Brothers

Its a book about the 741st B24 Bomber squadren.

It starts off going though there training, backgrounds and there suicidal missions over ocupide europe.

Its is quite a enlighterning read, and makes you realise just how many good 'young' men lost there lives.

The most disturbing aspect of the book is the ammount of men who were killed doing so called 'routeen' manovers or training.

Your think looking at war movies with b24 b17 etc flyign in formation how great it looks and take for granted how hard and difficult it really was to keep formation, specilay with somthing as heavey and unresponcive as the B24

the book reveals how as many as 2 or 3 fully crewed B24's were destroyed and there men killed just though maintaining formation.

one wrong manover by one pilot lead to the destruction of many. scary and sad.

also that they were overloaded with bombs by over 3000lbs than the recomended max load out, many didnt get 20 ft off the runway before crashing and exploding.

extract....

in just over a year 1,756 B24's and 624 B17's were shot down.

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Think of how many men each bomber carries, that is frighterning

get the book, its a damn fine read.

Offline KG45

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2002, 06:51:49 AM »
more specifically, it is the tale of the future democratic US Sen. and presidential candidate, George McGovern. (y' know, one of them 'liberal rutabagas' :p )

the story follows him through his flight training and deployment.
he completed 35 combat missions over nazi germany, flying b-24s from italy over the alps to get to the targets. brought home a badly damaged liberal, oops, liberator a couple times. the book also looks at the everyday workings of a combat bomber squadron deployed in the field, the relationships of officers and crews, and many other interesting insights.

good read, yes. highly recommended.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2002, 06:54:09 AM by KG45 »
all you fascists, you're bound to lose...

Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2002, 07:42:14 AM »
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more specifically, it is the tale of the future democratic US Sen. and presidential candidate, George McGovern. (y' know, one of them 'liberal rutabagas' :p )
 


Heh, different democratic party then...:)

I think I'll pick this up for the flight to Texas, thanks for the suggestion.

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2002, 07:52:07 AM »
Actually read it some time back, Very much enjoyed it.

Lots of the little day to day details that make things interesting.

Plus things like bombers haveing 2 crews which alternated missions.

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2002, 07:54:40 AM »
gotta agree with ripsnore... even 'liberals' weren't as big a wussies back then.   They were less prone to doing passing laws 'for your own good' too.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2002, 08:21:42 AM »
Ah yes, Ambrose's famous work of plagerism.  ;)                

Another product of his student populated "book factory". His problem centered upon his staff using another author's material without permission. Ambrose accepted responsibility and the other author was not unhappy about the publicity. By the way, the title was lifted straight from a Walt Boyne book too. Walt was amused, but not annoyed especially.

Seriously, Ambrose writes "oral" history. This type of work is much loved for it's "real feel", but is frequently loaded with historical inaccuracies. Ambrose, unfortunately, rarely makes any effort to correct these inaccuracies. Thus, he takes a lot of heat from historians. They feel he misimforms the reading public. My take is that while this is true to some extent, many people would not have read any WWII history but for Ambrose's books. So, in total weight, his work provide a greater service than the inaccuracies do a disservice. In other words, less than perfect is still much better than nothing.  

I enjoyed Band of Brothers, both in book and on film.

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2002, 08:25:20 AM »
I actually have to agree with wide on this one.  I have never been anoyed much by some of the inacuracies.

It weren't for romantisized accounts we probly wouldn't have many LW fans in AH.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2002, 09:19:20 AM »
If you want another great read along the same lines take a look at "The Wrong Stuff" by Truman Smith. Mr Smith was a copilot on a B17 out of England. Another I read years ago was "Target Ploiesti" I think the author was Ted Newby but it has been to long since I read it. It's the story of a B-24 Bombardier in the 15th Air Force out of Italy. All great books!!!

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2002, 09:46:56 AM »
You want a good book about bomber pilots in WWII?

Read Catch 22, instead of some pathetic b#llsh##.