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Offline Klasse

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P40 E right aileron?
« on: July 09, 2002, 11:44:25 AM »
What is the purpose of this?

Offline cajun

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2002, 11:46:25 AM »
Interesting... I never noticed that..

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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2002, 11:46:35 AM »
trim tab

Offline Klasse

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2002, 11:50:56 AM »
If I had bothered to check my book first.It says:Aileron fixed tab :)
But is that a trim tab,if it fixed?

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2002, 12:01:14 PM »
The vast majority of fighter planes in WW2 COULD NOT adjust all axis of trim in flight, like we can in AH.  In the case of the P-40E, the aileron trim was adjusted on the ground.

The Bf-109, as another example, only had pilot-controlable elevator trim; neither the ailerons or rudder could be adjusted in flight.  

Stuff like this is why I question even bothering to have trim at all in a computer game--it simply does not work like the real thing and has far too much of an effect.  

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Offline Klasse

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2002, 12:37:30 PM »
Then again I´m enlightend by the vast knowledge from all the people in here. :)

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2002, 02:02:03 PM »
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The vast majority of fighter planes in WW2 COULD NOT adjust all axis of trim in flight, like we can in AH.

Dunno about the vast part.  If you go to airshows you will notice that pretty much all of the US and UK fighters have hinged trim tabs for all three primary controls.

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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2002, 02:25:31 PM »
Does that mean that Kurt Tank didn't have a hand in designing them? :D  

The "Vast majority" statement is a little over stated.  That may have been true in WW1, but trim was an important feature for many aircraft by WW2.  

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2002, 02:33:03 PM »
AHT says that the P-40 had trim controls for all 3 axes in the cockpit.  The aileron trim tab was on the left aileron, with a ground adjustable trim tab on the right aileron.

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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2002, 02:51:11 PM »
"The "Vast majority" statement is a little over stated. That may have been true in WW1, but trim was an important feature for many aircraft by WW2. "

If you want to believe it's over-stated, that's fine.  I really don't care since it doesn't matter in AH anyway.   I wouldn't call trim "important" either; elevator trim was the only one that was really vital although rudder trim is nice too on long flights (keeps the foot from getting too tired).  Aileron trim, the one most often lacking (especially in European designs) isn't very important.  Even in aircraft which had aileron trim, pilots reported that they only rarely had to fuss with it much.  Trim is a lot harder to work in AH than in the real deal since our joysticks don't have changing stick forces and FF joysticks haven't really been perfected well enough yet.

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