Author Topic: Anybody seen the lovely new LA police video? (Read 3965 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #150 on:** July 10, 2002, 11:34:31 AM »

BTW, to Apache, Mav, Concho and all others in this difficult profession.

Like I said before PD's differ.

One of my daughters was a very wild teen. She ran away from home once (with a punk whom I had the pleasure of frightening later, but that is another story). My local PD was no help at all. They suggested I look around. Took a report over the phone, never once sent out an officer.

When I (through personal detective work) found out she was in Boulder Co. I called the PD there. I was treated like a king. The dispatcher actually called me back 3 or 4 times to update me on the situation. When I got a phone call from her (I have caller ID) I called the dispatcher back, and gave them the phone number. He sent out an officer immediately, and caught them still on the phone.

My daughter is fine now 4 years later. Thanks to the Boulder PD. About 6 months later I actually got a call from my local PD. They were wondering if my daughter was still missing. Sheeesh:rolleyes:

Eagler · « **Reply #151 on:** July 10, 2002, 11:35:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Montezuma

He has no criminal record.

Got any other stupid redneck theories I can wager against?

and dumb arse, this was the bet:

Anyone wanna bet that a 16 year old that resists arrest, fights with an officer, will become a model citizen?

redneck, that's funny ... CA homo

dBeav · « **Reply #152 on:** July 10, 2002, 11:39:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Apache

You don't seem to get it. With rogue cops, you don't have to break the law to get yer bellybutton whooped. Just take a gander at cavey's post.

Oh I get it.
Where's the outrage over a group of punks without a badge that beat people for no reason? No one to sue there so it doesn't matter?
Ya there are cops that are bad. There just people, some are bad some are good. If society as a whole wasn't so fubared to start with we wouldn't need as many cops allowing better screening and training. But since we need a cop on every corner we're gonna have to fill those spots with whoever we can get to do the job. Catch one going too far get rid of him, sure, but don't squeak about the system as a whole. If you go to a doctor that's a hack do you call all doctors hacks? If you find a shady lawyer do you call all lawyers.....ok, that wasn't a good one, but you get my point.
And then there's the whole riot thing, "Oh my, someone I don't know has had an injustice committed to them. I think I will burn my neighbors house and all the businesses in my city because I'm upset." If your that stupid then go ahead. I ain't payin to fix it back up though.

Sorry for all the ranting. (a little)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #153 on:** July 10, 2002, 11:47:31 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
One of my daughters was a very wild teen.

I'm sure that had NOTHING to do with a liberal upbringing...

Udie · « **Reply #154 on:** July 10, 2002, 11:53:28 AM »

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Originally posted by -Concho-

Capt. Apathy,

I can think of at least one time. I patrol a very remote part of West Texas. I was dispatched to the scene of a "minor" accident.
When I arrived a man was trapped inside of his vehicle and it was on fire. I called for the fire dept but I knew that they were at a minimum of 30 min away. Myself and a few of the people who had stopped to help tried to put out the fire with no luck. I took the sledge hammer and crow bar out of my trunk and we beat the driver's door down. Once I got my head down in the car past the smoke I found that his foot was trapped under the seat. At that point fire was coming into the cab of the vehicle and I was running out of options. I had to take my boot knife out and cut the most of the guys foot off to get him free. We removed him and laid him on the ground. He died five minutes later of internal injuries.

The bottom line is that no one wants us around until they are in the fire, then we can't get there quick enough.

I don't know where you live or if you will ever travel to Texas, but if you do I invite you to come ride with me and see the other side of the coin.

Cody Cory
Trooper
Texas Highway Patrol

Concho,

I have to chime in again and say that as a Texan I love the D.P.S. and you guys even gave me a ticket once! er... twice! I have never met a more professional group of peace officers in my life! Any encounter I have ever had with the DPS has been this way. This is why I got 2 tickets, you guys will NOT be talked out of it

First ticket was for expired tags on Christmas day!!!!! but it was my fault so I deserved it. 2nd was actually kind of fun. I was driving a camero from Houston to Killeen for my roommate. I was between Milano and Caldwell doing about 15-20 mph over the posted limit. I get to the crest of this hill at the exact moment a DPS camero hit the crest coming the other direction. I saw him flip it around and I was on the side of the road before he got his lights on, knew I was busted

He ran the plates to verify my story of ownership and we sat there for about 20 minutes talking about camero's! (I think his was faster than mine hehe) Then some guy in another camero sees us and pulls over to talk. The DPS guy didn't like this too much because the conversation ended a couple of minutes after the 3rd camero showed up. He was a very professional and nice guy and I really didn't mind the ticket because of that, afterall I was speeding and I knew it.

If I was ever to be a cop DPS is where I'd go, though I'm sure you guys woulnd't take a dude like me hehe. Thanks for your service to the state and sorry you have to see/do bad stuff to protect and serve us Texans....

midnight Target · « **Reply #155 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:03:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort

I'm sure that had NOTHING to do with a liberal upbringing...

Actually yes. There was some of that.
But the main reason was that her mother is a royal biatch who felt drugs and drinking was more important than children. You see I went straight (gave up all drugs) almost 12 years ago (September), and divorced the egg donor because she wouldn't. I also won custody of my children, and raised them without a mother for many years. My daughter had difficulty dealing with the fact that her Mom was more interested in parties than her. No matter what I did as a father, and I was involved, That void was hard to fill. This is why you will never see me advocating legalization.

My daughter is a very beautiful young woman now, living on her own and doing well. Last year she came up to me out of the blue, hugged me and said thank you for everything and apologized for putting me through the grinder 4 years ago. That one moment made all of the sacrifice and heartache worth while.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #156 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:14:02 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target

Actually yes. There was some of that.
But the main reason was that her mother is a royal biatch who felt drugs and drinking was more important than children. You see I went straight (gave up all drugs) almost 12 years ago (September), and divorced the egg donor because she wouldn't. I also won custody of my children, and raised them without a mother for many years. My daughter had difficulty dealing with the fact that her Mom was more interested in parties than her. No matter what I did as a father, and I was involved, That void was hard to fill. This is why you will never see me advocating legalization.

My daughter is a very beautiful young woman now, living on her own and doing well. Last year she came up to me out of the blue, hugged me and said thank you for everything and apologized for putting me through the grinder 4 years ago. That one moment made all of the sacrifice and heartache worth while.

Heh, there was a "G" there, for Grin....actually I don't personally believe that political background has anything to do with upbringing, moral values do though (not necessarily "religious" moral values) and discipline. I had a "Democrat" father and a "Republican" mother. Both now are Repubs (as my father, and father-in-law both say, "I didn't leave the democratic party, they left me!")

Incidently, my mother too was an alcoholic and they divorced during my "Teens"...I went from a straight A honor role student to a partier within a year in my 11th grade. Mostly because I was in denial of feeling ill effects from a violent, nasty divorce. I have the scars (homemade tattoos) to prove it, however I overcame the emotional aspect of it as soon as I left home at age 18.

AKIron · « **Reply #157 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:22:48 PM »

Ya can't always blame upbringing for the choices a person makes. Some have lousy childhoods and turn out fine, others vice versa.

One of my daughters (have 2 daughters and 2 sons) was pretty wild as a teen but has since settled down, become happily married and has three sons she dotes on. A parent can only love, teach by example and hope for the best.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #158 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:28:38 PM »

I see nothing wrong with what the police did to that criminal. In fact I thougt they exercised a great deal of restraint in an obviously dangerous situation. The fella looked like a mean sonfasqueak.......

Seriously I don't understand why the Policemen went so out of control, being unproffesional and slamming the kid so hard and especially punching him in the face. I thought this was wrong and uneccesary. However I'm getting pissed that this now becoming another race incident, did the leftist race conflict types not notice the thoroughly multicultural nature of the cops involved?

On the other hand, actually this is the best thing that has ever probably happend to the kid so far in his life- well it will be- financially at least with the upcoming law$uit.

Hortlund · « **Reply #159 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:31:01 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
This is often cited as a cause for more common sense in the legal system. I suggest you look into it further. McD's was not only aware of the "excessively" hot coffee they were serving, they knew it was dangerous and tried to cover it up. While there are many frivilous lawsuits out there, this isn't one of them.

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Apparently this would justify a million dollar lawsuit? They knew they were serving "dangerous coffee"...because it was too HOT? When I get a cup of coffee, the first thing I do is not pour it all over me, I set it on the table and let it cool down.

Anyway...what happens after the lawsuit midnight? Another classical US warning sign in the class of "caution. HOT, do not pour in knee or over small children", another rant "McD is not responsible for any damages caused by this cup of coffee"? Is that normal to you midnight? I find it f**king retarded.

Stuff like the lawsuits you have in the US wreaks havoc on your economy, and you dont even seem to realize/care. Do you remember a company called Texaco? You dont see that company around much nowadays, do you? Try to find out what happened to that company. (Hint: multi-billion dollar lawsuit over a pissant deal)

I understand that most americans hate lawyers, it is not wonder since 97% of US lawyers behaves like a combination of leeches and rats.

Tell you what, there are two simple things you should do that would get rid of 90% of all your twisted lawsuits.

1) Prohibit lawyers from taking out their pay in form of a percentage of an eventual "win".

2) Make the losing part in a private/civil lawsuit pay the lawyer costs for the winning side.

We have 1 and 2 in Sweden, and guess what, we dont have moronic lawsuits ala "oh, I broke a nail on the dashboard, sue Ford" or "oh I spilled coffee over me, sue McD" (Sue yourself you clumsy squeak).

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Steve, an all white jury aquitted those police officers, which set off almost a week of rioting in LA. This was not justice and even the Federal Government agreed. Those same officers were later tried in a federal court and found guilty of denying King his civil rights. They all did time.

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And an all black jury freed OJ Simpson...but there cant possibly be anything f*cked up with the jury system now can it?

Anyway, you have to make up your mind, either you are innocent until proven guilty, or you are not. What way do you want it? Guilt by media coverage, or guilt (or non-guilt) by verdict in court? Besides, the jury that freed the King-policemen were not all white.

And exactly how f*cked up is it that a federal court finds the policemen guilty of violating his civil rights? In Sweden we dont allow people being tried twice for the same crime (albeit using a different law/rule).

Ripsnort · « **Reply #160 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:40:20 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Ya can't always blame upbringing for the choices a person makes. Some have lousy childhoods and turn out fine, others vice versa.

I find that statement "Ironic" (Excuse the pun

) A "Lousy childhood" would be because the parent(s) gave them one, no?

AKIron · « **Reply #161 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:47:04 PM »

First to admit I can be a bit dense sometimes Ripsnort but I don't see the irony. I meant that people make good and bad choices independent of whether they had good or bad parents.

midnight Target · « **Reply #162 on:** July 10, 2002, 12:54:49 PM »

Besides, the jury that freed the King-policemen were not all white.

You are correct. There were however, no Blacks on the jury either.

The point you were making however had to do with the video not being significant enough evidence for conviction. I am saying that if the King trial were not held in a white upper middle class community the verdict would probably have been different.

Please look up the McDonald's case... you may be surprised.

"Liebeck, who also underwent debridement
treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds
refused."

The whole story.

AKIron · « **Reply #163 on:** July 10, 2002, 01:05:46 PM »

The real problem is that now we're all stuck drinking warm McDonalds coffee.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #164 on:** July 10, 2002, 01:10:49 PM »

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The real problem is that now we're all stuck drinking warm McDonalds coffee.

...while SHE is drinking starbucks living high on the hog....Lawsuits in America is by product of the "ME ME ME, I'm the center of the universe" generation aka Liberal left.