Author Topic: Oh No!!! they made it even worse! (Read 2238 times)

Frodo · « **Reply #60 on:** July 10, 2002, 09:54:24 PM »

I play in the CT whenever there are enough on.Come to think of it I don't recall ever seeing any ak's in the CT.

"but what kind of immersion did you get from the quakeball MA before Frodo? "

A tad bit more than I do now,for sure.

Why not just a desert map.Why a pizza/peace symbol or whatever it is?I thought this was a WWII Sim?

Did you guys have these kind of maps in A/W?

Frodo

Karnak · « **Reply #61 on:** July 10, 2002, 10:09:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Frodo:
Why not just a desert map.Why a pizza/peace symbol or whatever it is?I thought this was a WWII Sim?

Easy. Balance. No historival terrain that I have ever seen is balanced. Has the noodleula country on Midano ever been reset? If so, very, very rarely. The noodlelua is a huge advantage. It puts all of your factories in the rear and ensures that you will never have both enemy nations pounding you.

Reckless54 · « **Reply #62 on:** July 10, 2002, 11:00:15 PM »

Played it. Don't like it. Too many bugs right now and I'm not really having any fun.

Fun, that's what it' supposd to be about, isn't it?

Don't like posting here much but I've been flying for a long time.

Take care all and I am sure you will all flame away at this simple statement.

Cheers,

RKLS

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #63 on:** July 10, 2002, 11:32:12 PM »

Air Warrior? Wouldn't know, never flew it.

No, true, I don't play in the CT... sometimes I do, haven't very often, I simply don't feel like it most the time. Your point is what? I, nor any other AKs, are the ones saying anything about immersion, or the lack there of, in the main arena- you are. I was saying, if you want immersion, the CT is full of it. You want to play land grab quake ball that has 3 countries going at each other at once, that's what the MA is for.

I asked you what KIND of immersion you got in the quakeball MA before, Frodo, but you only answered it by using a statement that doesn't answer the question.

What kind of immersion do you get from the quakeball MA? I got BnZed by 2 Ponies tonite, in a F4F4 with a SpitV wingman.... how could you get immersed by that?
-SW

Frodo · « **Reply #64 on:** July 11, 2002, 12:29:22 AM »

Ok you didn't play A/W.But isn't this where your squad came from?

If the CT had a bigger player base you would not see me in the main much,but that is not the case.Not everyone likes the CT and not everyone likes this map.So what,it's a game and life goes on.

Yes there are tradeoffs to try and satisfy all points of view in the main.No way around it.But my point is why take away from what little immersion there is by looking down and seeing a pizza?Does this answer your question?

The little immersion there is,is WWII A/C fighting each other.Thats about it in the main,but looking down at a pizza makes it silly.This is my opinion and nothing more.Not an attack on you or any other ak.I would guess that 50% or more playing this game don't have a clue as to what a/c fought what a/c and where anyway.Thats why I fly all the events and scenarios I can.It seems that some ak's do also.The main is just a way to fill in and get some practice.

Don't be so defensive if possible and listen to what people have to say.A lot of people posting have expressed appreciation of the efffort that went into it.Myself included.Others just like to pull the ak chain to get a response.

Also others have made some great maps for this game.The ak's aren't the only map makers in the game.

BTW..whatever happened to nimitz?

Frodo

Vulcan · « **Reply #65 on:** July 11, 2002, 03:28:15 AM »

If we wanted balance we'd all be flying 262's. There'd be no need for historical models even, just some generic 'plane'.

A little imbalance makes things interesting.

And yes I believe I have seen at least one occassion where the noodleula was reset, I remember once when the Knights were getting hit on the north and 'invaded' on the south tip.

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Originally posted by Karnak

Easy. Balance. No historival terrain that I have ever seen is balanced. Has the noodleula country on Midano ever been reset? If so, very, very rarely. The noodlelua is a huge advantage. It puts all of your factories in the rear and ensures that you will never have both enemy nations pounding you.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 11, 2002, 05:14:53 AM »

milkrunning is getting right boring, even found a place where you can milkrun in less then 1 min!! Never thought I'd agree with anything Laz says, but hes got it right. No consistant fun fights at the times Im on, like the old channel on the baltic, or a43-a5 on mindinao, or a1-a4 on ndisles. Its find one guy kill him, hoping the other 6 dont killsteal. Or its hmm p-40 looks like fun, I'll take her up for a spin and you got 6 typhs,ponies and spits on you. This map was fun for the first couple of days now its getting kinda moldy, like the textures. Though overall its a sorta good map just a little tweaking and maybe itll fix it. Spawnpoints need to be spread out and further. I stopped a capture yesterday cause my M8 got to the field faster then his goon did. Thats kinda lame, same today. V33 has a spawnpoint 1k out from it. Up in tank kill ack, kill vh drive 300 meters, land, up m3, drive 800meters capture. Maybe close some vhs and maybe even some fields. Not fun to fly 1 sector only to find nothing going on. Just tweak the thing a little see what comes out I think. I just hope this 60s beatnik map design goes away after this one.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #67 on:** July 11, 2002, 05:41:54 AM »

double post

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #68 on:** July 11, 2002, 10:21:51 AM »

I'm not being defensive, I wanted to know where you could get immersion from in the MA. I guess you can do it, but I sure can't, regardless of the map. If I was being defensive, I would of denied all of your arguments and said the map was perfect- it's just you... but I didn't.

No, this squad is not from Air Warrior, it was formed here in AH by me, AKWabbit and AKDejavu in early 2000.

I've been flying here since Beta Tour 3.

It looks nothing like a pizza or peace symbol, or mercedes benz symbol, when you have it zoomed in... otherwise it's so cluttered the map is utterly useless. Without the map, you can't even tell what it is.

So basically the shape argument people have is a fairly anal complaint since you have to use the map zoomed in otherwise it's totally useless... unless you like looking at a bunch of garbled up neon red and neon green icons.

We are the only ones who have made maps for the MA, I know many others have made maps for the CT.

EDIT: Nothing happened to Nimitz, he flies more in the MA than post here.
-SW

AKIron · « **Reply #69 on:** July 11, 2002, 10:29:26 AM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
No, this squad is not from Air Warrior, it was formed here in AH by me, AKWabbit and AKDejavu in early 2000.

Wulfie, the AK's were a squad in AirWarrior at least as early as '94. I flew with them briefly, though they may have briefly used another name, boneheads, I think. Anyhow, they were a Genie squad as early as '92, maybe earlier. They were also one of the first (if not the first) squads in Red Baron on TSN. I was a WingWalker then. Not denying that you, Wabb, and DJ brought the AK's to Aces High though.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #70 on:** July 11, 2002, 10:32:36 AM »

Iron, the squad "2/AH" was formed here. We flew together before hand in several games before... the original members that flew in Air Warrior rarely fly here.
-SW

AKIron · « **Reply #71 on:** July 11, 2002, 10:38:35 AM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
Iron, the squad "2/AH" was formed here. We flew together before hand in several games before... the original members that flew in Air Warrior rarely fly here.
-SW

Right Wulfie, guess I shoulda just pointed out that the AK's were a squad that grew into a Brigade and divided into squads of which the AH branch were mostly relatively new members. Also, We still have members that fly Red Baron almost exclusively and some here that yearn for a WWI MMPG. None still fly AirWarrior though.

Nifty · « **Reply #72 on:** July 11, 2002, 10:39:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
And yes I believe I have seen at least one occassion where the noodleula was reset, I remember once when the Knights were getting hit on the north and 'invaded' on the south tip.

I remember that. Was one of the most fun times in the MA I've had as a Knight.

weaselsan · « **Reply #73 on:** July 11, 2002, 06:47:07 PM »

clyd agrees.

poopster · « **Reply #74 on:** July 11, 2002, 08:34:10 PM »

Weaselsan..

I think your in trouble..

and it looks serious