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Offline Widewing

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How has the new map effected your scores?
« on: July 11, 2002, 08:37:43 AM »
Despite my general dislike for the new map, my scores are generally up. My fighter K/D is way up. This, I believe is due to the fact that this map forces one into fighters with excellent high- altitude performance (in my case the Bf 109G-10 and P-51D). Honestly, I'm finding it difficult to fly planes like the P-40 and FM-2 because I seem to spend 90% of my sorties dodging high flyers who come roaring down at every opportunity. It's like being a one-legged man in a bullfight. Yeah, I generally have no trouble avoiding these attacks, but it takes much of the fun out of the game when you can't fly the aircraft you wish to, or are constantly in the defensive mode. Both the P-40s and FM-2 were low altitude fighters, which are out of their element fighting at 20k+. Ok, the F4F-4 and A6M2 are better than those up high, but they're still too slow to compete with Mustangs, Doras and Messerschmitts that seem to dominate the arena more now than ever.

So, I seem to be killing tons of bombers, but that's quickly becoming boring too. Moreover, with so many high flying enemy, it has become essential to fly fast-climbing, fast movers more than ever before. The net result being that one tends to encounter bombers more frequently. What's more, finding a formation of Lancasters while in a G-10 usually means 3 easy kills. The addition of the 3 buff mode has made it very easy to run up rediculous scores flying high-alt fighters. Seriously, I'd really consider trading my inflated K/D for a lot more low level action where I can enjoy the newly added early war fighters. If nothing else, let's rotate the maps again, please.

Maybe HTC would consider the suggestion to set aside a corner of the new big map(s) for early war aircraft. That would go along way towards putting some more entertainment back into the game (for me at least).

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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2002, 08:43:21 AM »
We have scores?!

Offline Duedel

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2002, 08:45:17 AM »
Take a look ar my K/D Tour 29 and Tour 30 i guess its proving ur theory.
On cause is that there maybe more newbies testing out the new version but im not sure.

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2002, 08:52:07 AM »
I'm the squad's bus driver this month... lotsa captures soo far :D

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2002, 08:54:21 AM »
"Saw at work" LOL you liar. Im gonna email your boss about this.

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2002, 09:13:26 AM »
My GV and field gun score has gone way up - because that's about all I'm doing these days, for the reasons Widewing said.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2002, 09:21:26 AM »
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So, like, I was floored when Widewing started blurting out
Despite my general dislike for the new map, my scores are generally up. My fighter K/D is way up. This, I believe is due to the fact that this map forces one into fighters with excellent high- altitude performance (in my case the Bf 109G-10 and P-51D). Honestly, I'm finding it difficult to fly planes like the P-40 and FM-2 because I seem to spend 90% of my sorties dodging high flyers who come roaring down at every opportunity. It's like being a one-legged man in a bullfight. Yeah, I generally have no trouble avoiding these attacks, but it takes much of the fun out of the game when you can't fly the aircraft you wish to, or are constantly in the defensive mode. Both the P-40s and FM-2 were low altitude fighters, which are out of their element fighting at 20k+. Ok, the F4F-4 and A6M2 are better than those up high, but they're still too slow to compete with Mustangs, Doras and Messerschmitts that seem to dominate the arena more now than ever.


I've actually had quite a bit of fun with the FM-2, particularly last night when I convinced a Spitfire to auger into a desert rock in a turnfight down on a 8k alt deck.  But you're right.  As much fun as I've had flying the FM-2 lately, its getting old being harassed by FW190s, Spits, and P-51s using the base-level alt to enhance their performance.  But I can't actually blame them.  I could've flown the P-51B or a Spit if I really wanted to fight on an even level.  If I choose to fly an early-war ride, I should expect to become prey for the later war planes.  The FM-2 is great for smacking ground targets and turn fighting, but it can't catch a bomber and if it does, it usually can't bring it down.  The only early-war ride that comes close to being an effective bomber killer is the P-40E, but only if there's a wingman in a faster plane to slow down the bomber box first.

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So, like, I kept reading and Widewing was all
I seem to be killing tons of bombers, but that's quickly becoming boring too. Moreover, with so many high flying enemy, it has become essential to fly fast-climbing, fast movers more than ever before. The net result being that one tends to encounter bombers more frequently. What's more, finding a formation of Lancasters while in a G-10 usually means 3 easy kills. The addition of the 3 buff mode has made it very easy to run up rediculous scores flying high-alt fighters. Seriously, I'd really consider trading my inflated K/D for a lot more low level action where I can enjoy the newly added early war fighters. If nothing else, let's rotate the maps again, please.


I still find it difficult to get bombers, but when I do I can usually get a bigger score if the pilot is in the lead bomber and doesn't switch to one of the other planes.  I shoot the wing off the lead, ping up the two drones, and I get 3 kills.  But that assumes that they, with their combined firepower, don't get me first.

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So, like, then Widewing said
Maybe HTC would consider the suggestion to set aside a corner of the new big map(s) for early war aircraft. That would go along way towards putting some more entertainment back into the game (for me at least).



I think HTC should introduce CVEs and model them to be smaller but faster than the normal CVs we have now, with quicker regen properties, and capable of launching only the FM-2, F4F, A6M2, Val, and Dauntless.  It would create the potential for more low-alt fighting and give the strategists a new tool in the tool box.  I'm still learning this map, so maybe there's a section with low-alt airbases where that style of fighting can be done.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2002, 10:06:01 AM »
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Originally posted by Hortlund
"Saw at work" LOL you liar. Im gonna email your boss about this.


please, go ahead... you know his email ;)

Offline MJHerman

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2002, 10:42:52 AM »
My scores sucked in 1.09 and they suck now.

Enuff said.

Offline MrLars

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2002, 01:54:24 PM »
I don't know about scores but I'm flying ground attack almost all the time now. Some of the vehicle spawn points are so close that it tends to make some people respawn like never before. It's all too easy to capture bases, especialy vehicle bases, with this map and I'm just doing my part to slow them down a bit :D

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2002, 02:10:36 PM »
agree widewing.... it has become a fast plane only arena for the most part.   I fly a medium plane so I have not been affected too much one way or the other but I would certainly like to have a little area tucked away in this big ol useless map where I could fly early war planes against nothing but other early war planes.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2002, 02:11:33 PM »
Actually Cakes.... errr GoFaster, the FM2 is not an early war fighter.  

Its the late war varient of the F4F.  Admittedly, its performance is similar to many mid to early war planes, but technically it entered service in early 1944 if my memory is right ;)  But that would be like claiming the P-38L is an early war plane. :p

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2002, 03:40:59 PM »
Yeah, my K/D (the only thing I track) has tanked.

The Mosquito (my normal ride) is completely unusable on this map.  I'm not sure why, but I just get slaughtered in it now.

I've been trying the P-51B with no success, but that included one stupid death.  Fer cryin' out loud, I climbed a P-51B to 30,000ft only to get bounced by a P-47D-11 and Spitfire Mk IX that were at 35,000ft.  The altitude is out of control.

After that I took a Spitfire Mk IX up because it can handle high altitude, and I normally don't fly Spits because of the squeaking that is attached to them.  Killed two B-17Gs out of a formation before the B-17 gunner got my engine.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2002, 04:36:05 PM »
My scores are pretty consistent-they suck!

Overall I like the new map. I find it amazing that ppl state they have probs finding a furball-I am an Arizona USA player tho',so there's usually several hundred flying when I get home from work.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2002, 05:31:30 PM »
I pretty much only fly the Yak-9U now and so I'm generally limited to 5k AGL due to the elevations of the fields.  IMHO, the fights are just as good and usually with about the same types of A/C (Spits, Nikis, Stangs).

It hasn't really changed my K/D, but I don't worry about that so much anymore.