Crude Language Online

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Virage

I would like HTC to publish a standard Code of Conduct that could be enforced with community peer pressure, account suspension and banning.

A well publicized, clear and simple Code of Conduct is the first step in prevention. It provides a baseline of exceptible behavior that others can be judged by; but more importantly, serves as a positive reinforcement of what behavior is to be expected within the MA.

The Terms of Service agreement is not a Code of Conduct but it could include one, and should imo.

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If the above is said to be true then Sim Pilots (Cockface, Nuttsack and others) should be banned too.  Don't just pick and choose who gets to stay.

Personally, I laugh my butt off when someone cusses.  I will usually squelch channel 1 anyways.  If someone else cusses that is their perogative.    Usually they're so pissed off that it sometimes fills them with anger and throws them off of their game a bit.  

Masher

[Perle]

One of the more entertaining aspects of the AH community is this neverending source of wit and mirth.   Some people are just LOL funny. Various exchanges of banter and humour have left me laughing so hard I simply couldnt fly.
/me hits autopilot....grabs towel to clean up "beer shot thru nose" while laughing mess.

We are all having fun right? When it degenerates into a cussing/insult  match instead of playing AH, I have to question why these few people are even in here.
If they just want to curse and insult other players, isnt that what lame AOL chat rooms are for?

I have been involved with CounterStrike and TFC community for many years. I have been an Admin for various servers most of that time. Unfortunately CS/TFC has been fully reduced to 3 basic words and or insults......... diddly you....Youre a studmuffin.....Suck my dick.     And of course the myriad of unimmaginative variations of those three usually including a reference to a sister or mother with the occasional animal reference.
Many servers now run scripts that help prevent much of this language and repeat offenders are often kicked from the server or banned.  
Offensive names are also a problem.  Players joining a server with the name studmuffinkiller or Nigg3rB@sh3r or Cumguzzler or 8===) ~~     should be told to get a new name and be kicked from the server.
I dont think AH attracts the typical 10-12 year old haxor punk that CS and TFC does. AH seems to have a higher maturity level and most of these issues are not a problem.

I dont think the problem is the WTF, BS, NFW, OMFG.
I dont think the problem is the shiites, arse, shagged, banana.
I dont think the occassional " Lets bomb the toejam out of the Bish" or the  "Fuggin spit dweeb mofo's" isnt that bad either.
Brief exchanges on Channel 1 about non AH topics isnt really a problem.  For example....is that new movie good?, last nights Simpsons/South Park.    Logging due to wife.          Beer.

To use those words, acronyms, h@x0r, or mispels to intentionaly insult or direct profanities at a specific people, team or player is the issue.
Attempting to solves the mideast crisis or similiar issue of the day on channel 1 is an issue.

In AW usually a few people telling someone to "watch the language" or to "clean it up" was enough .  If not, there was usually a moderator/admin that would manage the situation.
My father and myself both flew in AW for may years and were both Admins.
If someone would not cooperate, kicking them from the arena usually got their attention.

Maybe a few admins are in order.

[Pongo]

My sense of time is bang on. You were ranting for far more then 5 minutes and what the guy said was not a big deal, if he left it at that. Which I think he would have if you handnt attacked him.
1 hour after that somone said something a bit more expicit on channel one and HT just said "so and so launguage...."
and the guy appologized and stopped. I dont think this wulfy guy would have said another thing. I have never seen him rant on channel one. Has anyone here? Maybe Im missing somthing.
But you handled this poorly. and then you came here looking for support. And you dont have mine.
Pick your fuggen crusade targets more carefully.

[Greese]

My dad was going to start a subscription, but decided against it because of all the babies around.  

My dad flew under the name

SWPTWNG

One potential subscriber gone, completely due to the whining.  He thought it was a great game, but couldn't stand the immaturity of some.

[llyr68]

The often insipid chat in the text buffer can be annoying, but I can ignore it with dignity. With the advent of AHvoice, there have been too many occasions were I've had to vsquelch to avoid my granddaughter picking up some choice language. The only problem being of course, that by the time I squelch the offender, she's already gotten an ear full of trash.

In truth, it doesn't happen all that often but when it does it can really light my fire. I'd have to agree with monitors with squelch/eject capability. I expect the problem to become more prevalent as the player base grows. There ARE immature illiterates playing who have no better means of expressing themselves, and who will do so at will.


LLYR
US$.02

[T0J0]

It is a very simple to stop the cursing on the main channel...
1. Agree on a data dictionary so to speak of curse words
2. Set the policy
3. when a player uses foul language he is locked off for the night
 A cooling off period so to speak from the time of the offense till a determined period...
 After a few nights of being locked off, bad mouth players will either adjust or leave for good...
 

[MoonJuice]

What's so freaking hard about typing:

".squelch 1"

".squelch "


What's wrong with you language whiners?
You got watermelon for brains?

Wait wait... I forgot... we all wearing skirts and panty hose now....  cuz we are FPCPWP: frigging polically correct panty waste rutabagas!

[Ripsnort]

Well moonjuice, that does not work with the proximity vox.  My son and I were flying yesterday (he's 6) and someone was using the F word on the proximity vox.  I had to turn his vox off, which he disliked because even though we're in the same room, he enjoys talking to me over his head-set anyways (you'd have to have a 6 yr old to understand that! LOL)

Anyway, people have to remember that ages tend to run from 6- 80 years old in Aces high, not everyone wants to listen to the spew.

[-ammo-]

I assure you that I am the farthest away from PC you can get. I am downright fundamental, and I am a bill-paying, tax-paying, child fathering man that still doesnt want to hear someone curse because they lack a decent vocabulary.

[Masherbrum]

Hey Snort ( Bro)

  I have a 10 mo. old son.  Here's how I stand on the WHOLE issue.  Squad channel, If you want to cuss go ahead (most of your squaddies will refrain from cussing if they know that you have a little one, I would hope so, you know?, or may not allow it for the little ears of the various homes)  What I mean by the squad is that this should be your only "cussing channel", keep it amongst squaddies, because we don't care!!.  Country channel, you are going to have a bit more people listening, show some class.  you see where this is going.  

NOW, Channel 1.  If you get shot down or crash, an expletive follows (I'm sorry but I slip now and then, shruug it off, and reup).   On Channel 1, there should be no reason AT ALL to publicly flame someone for shooting you down.  Furthermore, when you flog the dead horse, it gets annoying and you just hope the whiner logs off.  Sound familiar to anyone?

Masher

P.S. - Ammo

[llyr68]

MoonJuice: you make my point perfectly.

[MrLars]

What some people are missing here is the fact that each and every instance of crude language on anything but your squad channel just adds to the pile and the cumulative effect will be that HTC will have to spend time and dollars to correct the problem. No matter if you do it on a regular basis or not the effect will be the same.

So, each and every person that even just slips with the odd vulgarity is guilty of slowing down the pace of improvements in AH and I feel that is the truly sad part of spewing vulgarities, no matter how masked they may be, because it, in the long run, will affect all of us.

[Ripsnort]

Masherbrum, Ammo, points made clearly!

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by MoonJuice
What's so freaking hard about typing:

".squelch 1"

".squelch "


What's wrong with you language whiners?
You got watermelon for brains?

Wait wait... I forgot... we all wearing skirts and panty hose now....  cuz we are FPCPWP: frigging polically correct panty waste rutabagas!

IMO, this is typical of those who cause the problem. Nobody should be expected to condone your sense of what's acceptable, and no one should be expected to give up the use of channel one because you're having a brain fart.

[CSDMMNT]

Don't be an enabler.

One of the fastest and surest ways to teach your "little ones" what not to do is to make a big deal out of anything you don't want them to do.

If some one says Fnck! Don't go on 30 minute tiraids, make message board threads about that one word in a chat channel, and then jump up and down screaming and shouting about it. Nothing says to a child "here is something really offensive to do when you want to be offensive" like making a big show about it being offensive.

Right now all I see is the makings of a wonderful witch hunt wherein us people who ignore channel 1 by default, not by .squeltch, end up penalized when the one day we type "BS" we end up on "vacation".

Right now I know what to do if I want to grief Voss and put a lil ruin in his day, I'm sure others know as well. Why open yourself up like that?

Play the game. Play it right. Play it well.

Lead by example.

etc.

Fight the good fight and peace be with you,