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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2002, 10:25:54 PM »
When was the last time Chevrolet made a 5.7 V8 Camaro?
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2002, 10:29:12 PM »
Monty:  Au contraire knuckledragger! My car (Subaru WRX sedan 5MT) will run 5.4 and 14.1 @ 96 bone stock (per Car and Driver).  That's well ahead of a V-6 F-body and right there with the LS1 Z28 or T/A.

Camaro SS and T/A with ram air are clearly faster though.  But my car is 10k cheaper than either of those and holds 4 adults in comfort.

Sandman:  GM has been putting 350's into F-bodies since 1988 or so.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2002, 10:45:46 PM »
My bad. Chevrolet put a 5.7 in the Camaro Z28 in 1993-2002. It had a 5.0 between 88 and 92, IIRC.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2002, 10:48:21 PM »
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu

 Suzuki Esteem


Suzuki Esteem?

Ick. :eek:

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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2002, 11:25:15 PM »
Whew, Good thing there's no good cars on that list!

:)

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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2002, 11:26:41 PM »
Problem with the camaro&firebird was that they walked away from the market that bought them. In the 60's and seventies they were able to be purchased at low-midrange depending on what options you wanted.

Nowadays they start at mid and only go higher! a guy in his twenties is not buying those cars for that much! the start price on camaro's in my area is around $29,000 bone stock with a V6. Ick.
Gone are the days when you bought the stripped out camaro with just the rally and sport package to get the fancy tires and suspension and a V8 for $22,000.

Muscle cars just evolved out of thier niche and deserved to be put down so others could evolve.

Did you see the concept cars up the pipeline for the next 5 years in C&D awhile ago? allot of economy cars with high HP V6's. I even saw a 2 door convertable ala Fiero styling in the works.

About the GTO- please, don't hold your breath. Look at the Monte Carlo when it came back........

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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2002, 12:31:03 AM »
0-60 in who cares... chicks dig it:

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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2002, 02:30:29 AM »
The Mini is cool.

I do want to comment on the Japanese designed vehicle/built in the USA having good design but poor manufactured quality.

I have a 2001 Toyota Tundra 4x4.  The engine was built in Japan, but the rest was built in Indiana.  I have almost 24,000 miles on it and have not had one single defect.  The truck is just as solid and silent as when I drove it off the lot.  Everything in it still works perfectly.  American workers can build a vehicle just as well as anybody else.  It seems that our engineers aren't getting the opportunity to, or cannot, design a reliable vehicle.

At the same time as I bought my Tundra, one of my boss' friends bought a 2001 Ford F150 4x4.  At 6,000 miles the drive shaft fell off.  Another guy I worked with then described his friend's experience with a 1998 Ford Explorer, bought new in 1998.  His friend's Explorer had the tranny fall off at 4,000 miles.  The only Ford I have owned was the single biggest piece of crap I have ever had the displeasure of being foisted on me.  In terms of repairs it was by far the most expensive vehicle I have ever owned.  I will never buy another Ford.  For me to buy an American labeled vehicle there would have to be major, major improvements in their quality.

Right now I have no doubts that my next vehicle will be a Toyota.

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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2002, 02:46:28 AM »
Hmmm....no loss;)

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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2002, 03:58:20 AM »
Good riddens!  :)

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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2002, 04:17:18 AM »
DJV I saw one of those Minis today and they are DOOOOOOOOOOOOPE.  :)
If they built that thing with a real motor I would be all over it!

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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2002, 06:28:46 AM »
I posted this before..
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« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2002, 10:42:38 AM »
Here's the article:

http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=38788&a=a&bt=gto

To see what it looks like you can go to the Holden website.

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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2002, 10:49:53 AM »
Better to read about the GTO at Pontiac.

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« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2002, 01:32:58 PM »
And these still being builded :

LOL

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