Stick stirring.

[niklas]

i canīt prove it so far, but i have the feeling that kicking full rudder produces a lot of warps on the other ones front end (Some people mentioned full rudder kicks here, too...)

This is especially a nuisance in scissors, where people like to improve rollrate with full rudder. Suddenly you see even P38 flipping around like fw190 on your FE.

niklas

[Nifty]

every once in awhile I'll see a "convenient" warp.  We saw one in the SEA friday night.  Daddog and I were in DHogs chasing a Ki61.  I was about to open up at d350 (I think daddog was about 50-100 yds) behind me.  All of a sudden, the Tony just warped to the right.  Wasn't my ISP, as daddog saw it too.  dunno if he induced that one, or it was just luck.  didn't save him tho.  

Stick stirrers usually look like floppy fishes to me.  It rarely induces a warp on my FE, except in the case of a determined floppy fish 190.    Spits that do it, well, they just kinda bounce around.  Hmm, I'll check my film from the other night, but I think I saw a Spit do it before I turned it on.

[Hooligan]

Urchin:

You aint seen nothing.  People can and do induce warps in this game by stick-stirring, but those of us who came from WB are accustomed to much worse induced warps.  I certainly hope AH continues to make improvements in this area but honestly it is nowhere near the problem that it is in other games.

Hooligan

[Voss]

I got to thinking about this and then remembered that I DO NOT use the regular build of AH anymore. I don't know for sure what technique HT uses for model transitions (input would be really good here HT), but I imagine that the older versions used stick positions to update player positions. Since DirectX 7 came out, programmers can use quaternion formulas instead, which not only saves in data size (data transmitted/received), but should reduce warps as well as make smoothing easier to accomplish.

I'm guessing, but it really seems intuitive.

 

[Wotan]

When came on at 4pm today i engaged a p51 south 27 I would close to his 6 and he would go inverted and appear to hang in my site i would pull the trigger at d300 or so then he would "instaniously" (i cant describe it he was there in my sight then suddenly below) This happened on about 5 passes. I'm not talkin a split esse or a roll. He went inverted then looked like a neg g manuver as the nose would be pointed up with a bit of tail drop. I know this because he "hung" in my site.

Of course I'm some what of a hothead (not like some) so I ask who was the stick Stirrer
and got no answer. Especially since another 51 came and killed me the bastige......

I've seen that several times. Once a spit would do flying on the deck but it was more side to side.

This aint like stick stirring in wb.

I checked ping net stat all were real good.

I rarely see the warps others complain about was this an induced warp? lag? stick stir?

I wanna know cause next time I act like an bellybutton on channel 1 I'll have something to back it up....

[VFJACKAL]

Been acused of it...aint got a friggin clue how to do it.. But if I am "Stick Stirring" it aint on pupose. Just trying to get away.

But then again...so many aces in here that never do anything wrong. Us dweebs will just keep on stirring I guess.  

[Tac]

"Suddenly you see even P38 flipping around like fw190 on your FE"

This is something very odd in the P-38 FM. When you pull any g's and your flaps either drop or retract, the plane will snap roll instantly, making the plane roll to whatever side much faster than a 190.

Hope HTC looks into this as well.

[gatt]

The second scissor movement of a P38, FW, YAK and some other planes often becomes an HO. Even if you dont follow his maneuver. Pretty weird for a plane about 3-400yds in front of you at the beginning of the maneuver.

I'm sure that lag plays an important role here. A lot of weird maneuvers are due to lag. Someone can game the game as well ...