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Offline beet1e

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« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2002, 10:56:17 AM »
Lazs!
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beetle... i was cleaning some handguns. Oh, those are hand held firearms for you brits.
Oh no. Lazs is getting ready to come and shoot me. Was it something I said? I take it back. Strat sucks, furballing rocks!
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Offline T0J0

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« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2002, 11:04:21 AM »
Map is fine! CTD"S and one ping kills only issues that 1.10 has brought to me...never have a problem finding a fight or milk running whatever I feel like that night... The challenge is doing the best you can with the tools you have to work with... Someone is working on new maps they just not finished yet!!
 Why dont you guys who hate the map create your own map and submit it, that would be a challenge.. you could be just like the AK's:) Make a map that looks like a hamburger or a Pastrami sandwhich, one part of it could be a dollop of Potato salad or coleslaw...
  Time for lunch T0J0
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« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2002, 11:14:49 AM »
I hate this map, and I'm not about to worry about stroking the AK's ego's in case their feelings are hurt. If they really want to do something for the community, get rid of the map. It's not ahead of it's time. It's the ugliest thing that's hit my monitor since I last sneezed.
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« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2002, 11:27:23 AM »
Kweassa - thanks for your recent post - best post I've read on here in weeks.  I am interested in developing a map/terrain that will make most people happy some of the time. I have a few thoughts - can I email them to you?
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« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2002, 12:19:40 PM »
"I do find it interesting that you take a shot at our squad tho"

--Rude

Actually I wasn't taking any sort of shot at your squad; I have never run into your squad and have no idea how you fly.   I do, however, assume that in order to like the current map you have to be a certain kind of player--a type of player which your response suggests you've been called before.

"So why not just play Quake? - I'm serious"

--Beet1e

I HAVE played Quake at times, as well as Unreal, UT, NFS4, AW, Warcraft 2, AOK/TC, Doom, Q2, Q3A, CS, XvT, TFC, EQ, and geez I can't even remember the rest.  Suffice it to say I've played a LOT of multiplayer games over the years.  Right now a game called Dungeon Siege is taking up most of my gaming time--AH is just too dang boring.  

I have no interest in re-creating WW2.  I like aerial combat--compared to FPS or RTS games, there's quite a bit more variety involved in the action of flightsims like AH, without it being overly time-consuming as the RPG's are.   I don't give a rats behind about things like "realism" in gameplay setups.  All I want is to find decent, good-sized battles to take part in; I want FUN.  It's a game--nothing more.  And before you say it, yes I've tried Fighter Ace....it's just too stupid IMO, with its air starts and invisible cockpits.  ANY game has to have rules (even Quake has rules).  

Seriously, why would ANYONE want to re-create WW2?  A typical flight in WW2 involved taking off, flying around for a couple hours and landing, with maybe being in combat for 5 minutes of that--or maybe not.   Heck, the ETO P-51 guys were flying 7-hour escort missions and frequently missed combat.   That's not exactly what I'd call the height of suspense!  

J_A_B
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« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2002, 12:28:16 PM »
Yep. After two weeks of giving the map time, for the most part, it's not much fun...for me anyway.

So, I downloaded the latest terrain editor and tried to start working on a new map. But, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of docs on how to use the editor. I didn't get very far. I now have a 512 mile square of blue water. Nothing else...just water.
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Offline SKurj

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« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2002, 02:02:48 PM »
Well its obvious the number of supporters have dropped for the new map and the gameplay it brings with it.  2 weeks ago this thread would likely have been filled with pro-pizza posts.. wonder what happened....

Anyways, THANK YOU HTC!! for the old maps back in rotation +)


Perhaps the next time pizza rears its head, it will be a revised version...


SKurj
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« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2002, 02:07:22 PM »
toad... my point remains that your squad does not find the P40 to be a viable plane in the new map..   You are of course the exception and I am sure that you are having fun.   I am having fun myself but would enjoy more options.    

The early war planes are frustrating because they are not viable options.    It is frustrating that they are available yet useless 90% or more of the time... Their usage and how they do in the MA even in the best hands proves this.   The farther the fields are apart and the more spread out the fights the less useful slower early war planes are.

beetle.. cleaning a handgun does not mean that a person is getting ready to shoot some poor misguided brit.   Contrary to popular belief... Sometimes.....  A person can own guns all his life and never shoot anyone....I am happy that you are on the road to recovery tho so far as the arena is concerned.
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« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2002, 02:09:32 PM »
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Well its obvious the number of supporters have dropped for the new map and the gameplay it brings with it.  2 weeks ago this thread would likely have been filled with pro-pizza posts.. wonder what happened....
 


People probably got tired of arguing with you, and chose the easier route-> go fly in the MA.

Next thing you'll know, people will actually take credit for lighting a fire underneath HTC's bellybutton to get the old maps back in rotation....

Take a vacation from complaining, you might enjoy yourself more.
-SW
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« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2002, 02:09:55 PM »
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Originally posted by SKurj
Well its obvious the number of supporters have dropped for the new map and the gameplay it brings with it.  2 weeks ago this thread would likely have been filled with pro-pizza posts.. wonder what happened....

Anyways, THANK YOU HTC!! for the old maps back in rotation +)


Perhaps the next time pizza rears its head, it will be a revised version...


SKurj



If only HiTech could have held out for a bit longer we might have been rid of some whiners, oh well.
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« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2002, 02:21:26 PM »
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You can all defend what HT did. But ...... Money talks!. Lets see what happens when customers begin to cancel accounts. We could even begin again from 1.02 :D. Then every 1.10 defenders will be the whinners!!! :rolleyes:

Remember anti-whinnersssss   Money talks ;)


You should lead by example ....
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« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2002, 04:03:51 PM »
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Originally posted by beet1e
I am interested in developing a map/terrain that will make most people happy some of the time. I have a few thoughts - can I email them to you?

Let's all hear your idea.  I bet it's a good one. :)

Tomato
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« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2002, 04:22:32 PM »
I'm not berating you for wanting what you want. I'm just very surprised that you seek it in Aces High. J_A_B, you said a number of things that have left me quite bewildered. I will quote a few:
  • I have no interest in re-creating WW2.
  • I don't give a rats behind about things like "realism" in gameplay setups.
  • I want FUN. It's a game--nothing more.
  • Seriously, why would ANYONE want to re-create WW2?
Perhaps we should remind ourselves that Aces High is a WW2 flight and surface combat simulation. To say that you have no interest in recreating WW2 is like someone who doesn't like eating fish going to a seafood restaurant and being disappointed not to find something he/she likes on the menu. Or someone ordering a salad, but then pointing out that they don't like lettuce.

Aces High is a flight sim, but it is much more. Just because you guys are not interested in the strategy does not alter the fact that many of us want strategy, and that certain strategic elements are in place within AH.

In reviewing the recent spate of pro-furball posts, it seems that many pro-furballers just want to get up there and kill something - provided there's a living, breathing person on the receiving end. If you don't like the time it takes to marshall your forces into position, if you find the distance between airfields too tedious, then I must ask the question again: Why are you here? Why burden yourselves with all this WW2 strat and logistics nonsense when you could get everything you want by playing Quake? You're not interested in WW2. So what difference does it make whether what you're piloting is a 109 or a Spitfire or an inter-galactical battle cruiser? All you want to do is to shoot something.

A pattern is emerging from the pro-furball camp. The strat guys are willing to take on a new challenge, and had their share of lumps in the last release. You don't see the strat guys bellyaching about number of fields/distance between them etc. But if the furball guys don't get an arena that's just how they need it so they can game the game and get the results they want, then they're crying in their beer.

Lazs! In another post you said
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I am stating that I to could find lots of "fights" if I was willing to get slaughtered. Even at the worst odds I could manage to kill something before I died. That is not the kind of fight I enjoy.
(I took the liberty of correcting the one punctuation and two spelling errors, and improper pluralisation)

Well, that pretty much says it all. You don't like the arena because it's not what you're used to. Your k/d might sink to 1-1 (worst case scenario), were you to go looking for a fight in here. You're pretty much admitting that you used the setup of the 1.09 maps and terrains as a crutch, to provide yourself with preferential logistics to create a situation in which you could win. And do you know what? That's not far off how I would define the concept of Gaming the Game.
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Offline Wlfgng

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« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2002, 05:50:06 PM »
roflmao

cancelling accounts because they don't like the map ??

lol     and go where ?

maps come and go.  Everyone whines about wanting new stuff but are impatient as hell when it doesn't work out right away.
you whiners ever try 'fixing' the problem yourselves ?

and if you leave AH ... where ya' gonna' go that's better ?

nowhere
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Offline SKurj

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« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2002, 06:01:35 PM »
hehehe +) post my first whine, and am labelled for life as a complainer (i've complained abit about the latest version of AH (bombers, map) and thats it...)


laff...

2 yrs in AH the first time i really have issues too...  well i have lotsa them in rl too but thats another story +)



Oops i forgot i complained about the price once too.. and within a week it dropped...


SKurj
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