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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2002, 05:06:35 PM »
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By clicking the attack button is what triggers what gets scored where. I dont agree that it should be changed.  As I have said most who see this  "issue" as a problem fly 50 cal armed planes. I fly lw planes if I see a gv attack whether I am 50 miles a way or 2 miles 90% of the time I will have to rtb to get a jabo loadout to kill them.

Lotsa of other folks do the same. Why should the game cater to the (in most cases) less then "real" ability of 50 cal planes (and to some degree hispano planes)y to easily kill gvs.

You want the game made easier to protect your scores when in most other planes that dont carry 50s or hizzookas dont get the same benefit.

As to my comment in my previous reply,  it was directed toward the guy who said score had something to do with perk planes. Not at your original point. Which has, much like killshooter, been brought up many times.


I fly a little bit of everything, and really don't think deleting the attack and fighter buttons caters to any plane type choice.

I would, however, like the ranking system to cater less to players who make an effort to play for rank.  The system would have greater meaning, if it did a more accurate job of ranking all players, not just those who know how it works and intentionally adapt their play to fit what it seeks.

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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2002, 06:43:08 PM »
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I'd knew if I dug down deep enough in this pile of crap, I'd find a diamond.  Scores and rank in AH only mean, 1)You're a dweeb with no life 2)You smell bad and need a shower.



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The score/rank system is something that each player can take or leave.  If you don't want to play that game, fine.  There are plenty of things within AH to enjoy, or pass up.  I.E. furball, play for capture, drive GVs, gang-bang, vulch, fly LA-7s, etc.  Insulting players who choose to play differently than you makes you sound like an arrogant ass.  

So many players say and think that rank means nothing.  They often state this because they see a player (who they feel is great) who is outranked by a player who they feel is nowhere near as great.  Therefor the rank system is meaningless.
But to say that rank means nothing is incorrect.  Clearly, the #1 player is not necessarily the "best" player in the game (although he MAY be).  But, he did achieve a goal.  It may have been difficult for him, or it may have been a cinch.  Nevertheless, many players WERE playing for rank, and only one was ranked #1.  Some of the other players who were also playing for rank may have been more skilled, but they didn't play the RANK GAME as well for that tour.   

So many have stated that anyone can be ranked #1, the exception always seems to be themselves!

There are also many players who say that rank means nothing and all that matters is K/D.  Well, it is also silly to assume that a player with a K/D of 3 (call him Bob) must be better than a player with a K/D of 2 (Tom).  You may not know that Bob flies the El-Gay Seven and Tom flies the Hurri I.  Based on plane choice times K/D, Tom appears better.
You also know nothing about how they fly.  Bob may only tag along on large attack missions and get all of his kills cherry picking and vulching, avoiding ack and high cons.  If Tom, on the other hand, gets all of his kill while upping from vulched fields, out numbered 10 to 1... well I'd be impressed by a K/D of 2!

If you play for K/D, fine.  But just like rank, don't make it out to be than it is.

The only mistake is to think that your rank (or K/D) means you are better, or more skilled, than those with lower rank (or K/D).
                  
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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2002, 07:21:33 PM »
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If you play for K/D, fine.  But just like rank, don't make it out to be than it is.

The only mistake is to think that your rank (or K/D) means you are better, or more skilled, than those with lower rank (or K/D).
                  
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Since I play for fun and don't bother with what my score, rank or K/x ratio is, I never have that problem.  And I'll say it again, scores/rank/kill ratio are meaningless, maybe that just comes from 9+ years of playing online flight sims.






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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2002, 07:54:48 PM »
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Since I play for fun and don't bother with what my score, rank or K/x ratio is, I never have that problem.  And I'll say it again, scores/rank/kill ratio are meaningless, maybe that just comes from 9+ years of playing online flight sims.






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And most of the time, I don't care about score either.  But I used to, and I had a lot of fun with it.  It wasn't a "problem", it was just a competitive way to have fun.

I do think that YOU have a problem, however.  You feel a need to insult players who play differently, or for a different reason.  Seek help on this.  It really shouldn't bother you how others happen to enjoy their time.

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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2002, 09:06:53 PM »
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I would, however, like the ranking system to cater less to players who make an effort to play for rank.


What do you think this threads about? A guy who flies for scores dislikes the fact that killing a gv doesnt "score" for him.

Thats what its about.

If you care nothing for score or rank then it shouldn't matter. The kill gets recorded. You are "credited" with the kill. You just dont "score points" if you are in the wrong category.

Theres no wrong with flying for rank or score. It can be fun too. But dont say the current score system benefits anyone more then the other.

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« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2002, 10:56:08 PM »
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I do think that YOU have a problem, however.  You feel a need to insult players who play differently, or for a different reason.  Seek help on this.  It really shouldn't bother you how others happen to enjoy their time.

eskimo


I don't think I insulted anyone that plays for points or high rank, I only mock those that try to flaunt their high score/rank.  I don't really give a rat's how anyone plays, it's their $15 bucks.  Just don't come to me and say your a toejam hot pilot because you're ranked #1 or have a godzillion points.



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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2002, 01:01:56 AM »
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I don't think I insulted anyone that plays for points or high rank, I only mock those that try to flaunt their high score/rank.  I don't really give a rat's how anyone plays, it's their $15 bucks.  Just don't come to me and say your a toejam hot pilot because you're ranked #1 or have a godzillion points.
 


I'm assuming that you are referring to someone other than Eskimo, 'cause I haven't heard anything in this thread to indicate that he, or anyone else has said that they are a sierra hotel pilot.
And no, I didn't think that you meant to insult anyone.

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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2002, 01:15:03 AM »
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I'd knew if I dug down deep enough in this pile of crap, I'd find a diamond.  Scores and rank in AH only mean, 1)You're a dweeb with no life 2)You smell bad and need a shower.


It is normal for each person to put himself in the very center of Universe, and use himself as a measure for all things around. Though ability to respect the fact, that other people can be different, like different things, and have a different values, usually is a clear sign of a mature person.

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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2002, 02:07:04 AM »
dont forget the insta-pilot wound panzer pintle gun Widewing. I'd rather HO a P-47 than strafe a pzr who i know has his single 7.9mm manned. P-47 is safer.

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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2002, 02:53:22 AM »
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I'm assuming that you are referring to someone other than Eskimo, 'cause I haven't heard anything in this thread to indicate that he, or anyone else has said that they are a sierra hotel pilot.
And no, I didn't think that you meant to insult anyone.

My regards,

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Comment directed to those that flaunt their rank as some proof of skill, or self-worth.


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