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Offline Terror

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P38 almost restored
« on: July 18, 2002, 03:50:07 PM »
Good article on a restored P38 recovered from a glacier:

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/15/Worldandnation/Freed_from_a_deep_fre.shtml

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Offline cajun

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2002, 03:59:57 PM »
Wow...  I'd like to know is how they even discovered there was a plane under neath 256 feet of Ice...

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2002, 04:12:44 PM »
They knew roughly where they were and they dragged radar scanners over the glacier on sleds until they got hits that matched up with known information on number and disposition of aircraft.

If I'm remembering the story correctly.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2002, 04:17:16 PM »
Out to Find Buried Treasure

The story is here... right side of the page.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2002, 04:20:09 PM by Toad »
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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Wow, Middlesboro isnt to far away from me..
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2002, 04:30:47 PM »
I Live in Lexington, Ky. I knew that they were restoring it somewhere in the state but i wasnt for sure...THNX for the info ill have to drive down there and chk it out :)
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Re: Wow, Middlesboro isnt to far away from me..
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2002, 04:41:39 PM »
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Originally posted by OntosMk1
I Live in Lexington, Ky. I knew that they were restoring it somewhere in the state but i wasnt for sure...THNX for the info ill have to drive down there and chk it out :)


Heh what do ya know, Lex Ky here too.


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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2002, 08:30:38 PM »
They are lucky enough to have a vintage P-38 then they go and paint it in Iraqi Camo. Duh, I woulda choose a silver myself.

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2002, 08:55:32 PM »
judging from the oil coolers that looks like an early model (E?) - in the pictures I've seen they were army green - maybe the had some desert camo ones in north africa, though

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2002, 11:43:06 PM »
That's special primer for aluminum, it will be regulation OD (olive drab), when finished. The early model P-38s deployed to the ETO were painted OD, only the later P-38s were left natural. This particular plane is being faithfully restored in every detail, including the guns and the turbochargers. The guns were actually restored in Nashville, near me.

Yes, it's an E model, but it's the type of intercooler installation that determines the shape of the cowls, not the oil coolers. All P-38s from the YP-38 to the P-38H had a bizarre type of intercooler that was actually duct work constructed of corrugated metal just inside the leading edge of the wing leading to the outer wing tip and back from the engine. This intercooler system was designed when the expected horsepower potential  of the Allison V-1710 was thought to be around 1000-1200. It turned out to be entirely inadequate. Beginning with the J models, a core type (similar to a radiator) intercooler was installed, and these actually proved to be too efficient, and had to be modified. The change to the core type intercooler is what determined the shape of the cowls.

Many of the J and L models that were sold as surplus and raced had the turbochargers and intercoolers removed, and were fitted with the early model cowls that were more aerodynamic. The B-2, B-33 and B-34 GE turbos are expensive and difficult to maintain, and so many P-38s have been stripped of their turbos. "Glacier Girl" will be the only P-38 flying using both the original turbochargers AND the old ductwork style intercoolers, if the plans have not been changed.

The guy that owns the plane is about 70 years old, and he intends to fly "Glacier Girl" to Britain, and complete the "Operation Bolero" mission "Glacier Girl" began 60 years ago. Insurance company be damned.
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