Author Topic: OH how I hate Hillary, let me count the ways  (Read 971 times)

Offline Charon

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« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2002, 04:02:07 PM »
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Surely she has actually done something to deserve this hatred?


Well, you could make a point that both she and billy are convenient icons, used by the opposition to help focus supporters (their votes and campaign dollars) on a moralistic crusade that shifts focus from issues-based considerations. Given a choice betwen emotion or cold hard facts, emotion wins the vast majority of the time -- marketing 101. The people running these campaigs are very sophisticated, they know exactly how to push the right buttons, particularly when people want those buttons to be pushed. They make mucho $$$ doing just that. No vast "right wing conspiracy" just very effective negative PR. Hell, as proven on this board many times you don't even need facts (they get in the way) -- just a load of innuendo and a rightous headline on the e-mail or Web article.

You could even argue that working hard to villify both he and hillary was the only tactic availiable given B. Clintons success as a politician; his move towards MOR or even "conservative" positions on many issues making his presidency hard to counter by traditional tactics; and the overall strength of the economy during his time in office. In campaign PR it never pays to overestimate the target audience. People believe what they want to believe, the facts be dammed, as long as you properly package the message.

The question now is, who's next? Time for new villians since I don't think there will be a Clinton running for president next election. I mean, the campaignis still getting some milage, but please!

Hard to really hate Gore, I find myself yawning, though I do disagree with his slavish support of agribusiness.

Dashole? Another yawner.

Teddy K.? He's not goin' anywhere or doin' anything.

Nader -- nutjob, few Democrats will deny that.

Issues, once you get past terrorism it'll be another hard sell. Even terrorism may be a hard sell around campaign time, particularly with this "Office of Homeland Security" concept.

Charon
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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2002, 07:17:50 PM »
C'mon all you Hillary Haters!

What gives?

Go for it! Open invite to bring on the facts!

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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2002, 07:20:08 PM »
I'd do her.  But only doggy style.

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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2002, 07:44:00 PM »
Gut. Urban legend my butt. I saw these family members on TV, complaining about this, BEFORE she had her little photo op.

People I respect, NYC cops and firefighters, Booed the woman off stage. That tells you all you need to know about this particular piece of political flotsam.

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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2002, 07:44:58 PM »
So my guess is that you wouldn't do her. :)
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2002, 08:03:21 PM »
Gagged, with a bag over her head?  Hmmm...  Nah.
Everyone I know, goes away, in the end.

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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2002, 08:14:39 PM »
fuk hillary...shes a socialist


And i would fuk her...im a pig:) ionk ionk

of course from behind and really drunk...

Shes a thief---Whitwater

Shes anti-gun

and SEEKER..wacth out on the MAW bashing..
u can bash zx.. .but when u bring the rest of the crew in......


lolol
Love BiGB
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p.s.  Jane Fonda should be strung up....just for the pic of her sitting in guns that were being used to kill our men...and smiling

I would give them a break...put both the biches out to 1000 yards and ill use only my bofors to get them:)  thats fair..right??

:D

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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2002, 09:58:20 PM »
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and SEEKER..wacth out on the MAW bashing..
u can bash zx.. .but when u bring the rest of the crew in......



...they just might taunt you a second time, eh?
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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2002, 10:18:08 PM »
I hate Hillary Clinton.

I hate to look at her picture.

I hate to hear her talk.

I hate to read about her.

I hate her husband.

I think she is evil.

I think she is a criminal.

I think she is a consumate liar.

I think she should be in jail.

I think her desire for power and attention override any small decency she ever may have had.

I think anyone who voted for her is too stupid for words.

I could go on, but I think you've got the idea how I feel.

Dago
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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2002, 10:57:24 PM »
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Originally posted by Dago
I hate George W. Bush.

I hate to look at his picture.

I hate to hear his talk.

I hate to read about him.

I hate his wife.

I think he is evil.

I think he is a criminal.

I think he is a consumate liar.

I think he should be in jail.

I think his desire for power and attention override any small decency he ever may have had.

I think anyone who voted for him is too stupid for words.

I could go on, but I think you've got the idea how I feel.

Dago



ME TOO!!!    :D

(or at least agree to disagree)

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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2002, 11:12:07 PM »
No, Midnight, tell us why anyone should like or vote for her. Seriously! What does this woman bring to the table that is worth electing her president in 2004? Facts, please. ;)

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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2002, 11:15:36 AM »
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No, Midnight, tell us why anyone should like or vote for her. Seriously! What does this woman bring to the table that is worth electing her president in 2004? Facts, please. ;)


Hehe, you are assuming that I feel she is Presidential material. but I'll bite, here is a taste:

Senator Clinton grew up in Park Ridge, Illinois and attended public school. She attended Wellesley College. A 1973 graduate of Yale Law School, Hillary Rodham Clinton was named one of the National Law Journal's 100 Most Influential Lawyers in America in both 1988 and 1991. She was appointed chair of the Legal Services Corporation by President Jimmy Carter in 1977, and served as chair of the American Bar Association Committee on Women in the profession in 1987. From 1986-1989, she chaired the board of the Children's Defense Fund.


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Representatives of WTC United Family Group, along with representatives from Give Your Voice, SeptemberÜs Mission, and the Sept. 11th Widows and VictimsÜ Families Assn., met with Senator Hillary Clinton to voice our concerns and seek assistance for the families and survivors of Sept. 11. The Senator pledged to help us in our quest to provide psychological, emotional and information support to the families and survivors of Sept. 11. The Senator informed us of her efforts to make sure that each and every family has access to a Family Advocate,
from http://www.wtcunitedfamilygroup.org/news_december.asp

I have searched for some reference to what you said, nothing.

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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2002, 03:03:01 PM »
As I pointed out in the other thread.  I saw these people on O'reilly DAYS before her people told her. she better get back into show business.

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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2002, 03:20:48 PM »
Was THIS the story?

O'Reilly is creating a story here IMHO. I don't see her "Refusing" anyone. If every request to a Senator is not followed, it is far from being refused!