Author Topic: Pizza vs. Old .. what the complaint? :(  (Read 158 times)

Offline CSDMMNT

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Pizza vs. Old .. what the complaint? :(
« on: July 19, 2002, 01:14:56 PM »
Okay...too many threads about this so I figured I'd start yet another one :D

Besides, I've been complaining to HFMudd sitting here next to me at work about this and he's ignoring me, trying to do work or some such high ideal type thing *shrugs*

My whine is ... what is all the whining about maps? I guess I don't understand much of it at all.

I can find bases to lift off from that don't have anyone around them for miles and miles.

I can find ample time to climb to any altitude I want unmolested by friend or foe.

I can make milkruns against fields solo if I so choose.

... I don't get it :(


Furballers is what the complaint is yet I easily avoid furballing in the old maps.

Strat runs, missions, etc. I joined many a mission and had a lot of fun doing so on the old maps. Lazynutz or Fatnutz ran a good string of missions one night that was a ton of fun, basically 20 to 30 people milkran some bases until the "enemies" started to defend then we lost people to defending the last taken bases and what not. TONS of fun by all was had I believe.

Awesome defensive efforts were had by rooks and knights in old maps. Same with Pizza maps.

... I don't get it :(

Seems to me the game is fairly close to the same regardless of the map, it just depends on YOU individually and what goal/objective you set for yourself.

The ONLY minus I see with Pizza vs. Old Maps is the ground vehicle war options. Pizza map is obviously superior for GVs.

Otherwise ... I don't get it and HFMudd is tired of hearing me whine ... and he don't get it either!!!

Cheerios,

Quix

Edit: Corrected spelling in subject :(

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2002, 01:18:10 PM »
Don't sweat the whining. Some folks on this board would whine if the freaking game were free and Santa Claus (the REAL one Virginia) would drop off a killer game system every year to play it on.......:rolleyes: ;) :p
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2002, 01:56:31 PM »
CSDMMNT,

Any chance you fly for the Bishes?
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2002, 02:03:13 PM »
I never understood the whining either.  I recall most of it being about never being able to find a fight on the AK map and it being milk-run galore.  However, like you, I can recall plenty of milk-running occuring on the old maps (especially [but not exclusively] during my daytime when numbers are low.)  But some people don't handle change well and in fact are afraid of it... some people won't even fly a different aircraft or era of aircraft in AH!

I would like to convey a Kudos to the AK's for a job well done.  I think they got beat up too much on this and for nothing.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2002, 03:07:16 PM »
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HFMudd sitting here next to me at work about this and he's ignoring me, trying to do work or some such high ideal type thing


You can tell he can't see my monitor from his desk can't you?



Oh yea, almost forgot...

CSDMMNT, quit yer whining you milkrunningVulchingAltweenieF urballingSplitdweebLuftwhiner InarunstangHOer!

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2002, 04:05:24 PM »
I'll still shoot you down! :D

neener neener!

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2002, 04:24:25 PM »
I liked the new AK map, but still was glad to see the old ones put back into the rotation.
Why?
Simple......the old maps are familiar to me, like old friends you haven't seen in a long time.  
I understood the whines from both sides, but like all debates or arguments, neither side was entirely correct, neither side entirely wrong.
Furrballing lazs said it was too easy for people to milkrun, it was boring, hard to find fights and furrballs, then in another post in the same thread, he complained about not being able to find a furball that he didn't get slaughtered in.  From where I sit, if someone is only interested in furrballing, should they even care if others are milkrunning?  The milkrunning will only affect a furrballer's fun if he lets it, if he gets upset or irritated because those so called milkrunners aren't playing the game his way.  But in the end, who really cares?
I do most of my time in AH furballing, but what I do and when I do it depends on what mood I am in at any particular moment.  I found the new map no more conducive to gangbanging, furrballing, or milkrunning that any other map we have seen in the AH terrains.  People are going to do what they want to do on any map that is ever introduced, so blaming a map or terrain because it gives those folks more freedom to have fun their way, be it furballing, be it strat gaming, be it milk running, be it GV battles.......well, it's just plain roadkill.  Designing any terrain to intentionally restrict one area of gameplay just for the sole satisfaction of one group always will cause trouble.  
The people I admire the most are the ones who look at a map and tell themselves "I can deal with it" and go on and have fun.  You don't hear a peep from them, they are the ones who make this game worth staying in.  They take it all in stride, knowing that there is room for all styles of play, and go with the flow.

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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2002, 06:21:11 PM »
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I never understood the whining either



thats an easy one.   Human Nature = greed.  We are never satisfied.  so..... Where's the Stuka!

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2002, 09:03:47 AM »
eddeek... being "slaughtered" was not in reference to a furball.  A furball to me is roughly even numbers in fairly large number in a melee.   Being slaughted is upping from a vulched field or getting to a field and having 10 vs 1 defenders who can then chase you for a sector or more if you try to dissengage.    Low population density leads to small and uneven fights as well as the safety of milkrunning.
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