Take a Deep Breath

[midnight Target]

THIS MEASURE will make California the first state to regulate vehicle emissions of so-called greenhouse gases.

[Ripsnort]

“This gives unelected bureaucrats a blank check to design the cars that Californians will drive.”

Scarey, they'll have to widen the "Peoples Republic of Santa Monica" to include  California.

Kudos to California though, they got a big problem with the emissions and traffic down there...at least they'll lose a few hundred thousand taxpayers that will seek employment elsewhere with this loss of "freedom of choice" and the scientists will continue to hide the fact that cows give off more methane gas that helps perpetuate the green house effect naturally than all the worlds cars

[midnight Target]

Your mixing your metaphors again science boy. The Ozone layer issue and the greenhouse effect are not the same thing.

[Ripsnort]

Oops, typo, will change "Ozone" to "Greenhouse".

[Staga]

Because of that state technology in cars has made leaps ahead. There's nothing wrong in that

[Ripsnort]

Well, I actually kind of agree, you see, engineers are forced to make the cars more Earth friendly if they want to sell cars, so...in this case,  bureaucrats would force "new technologies". (Shrugs)

[midnight Target]

As one of the few native Californians I can attest to the success of our AQMDs. (Air Quality Management Districts)
In high school I often played summer league ball with a sign up in the gym saying "Play at your own risk, Stage 2 alert" (or even stage 3).
I can remember going the entire summer without seeing the mountains (11,000ft peaks 40 miles away).
I can remember my eyes burning in the summers, and getting that "emphyzema feeling" after swimming.
It ain't nirvana yet, but it is much much better now.

I hope we never back down. With the huge market for automobiles in California, the auto makers will have to buckle down. 35 million people can buy a lot of cars.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by midnight Target
As one of the few native Californians I can attest to the success of our AQMDs. (Air Quality Management Districts)
In high school I often played summer league ball with a sign up in the gym saying "Play at your own risk, Stage 2 alert" (or even stage 3).
I can remember going the entire summer without seeing the mountains (11,000ft peaks 40 miles away).
I can remember my eyes burning in the summers, and getting that "emphyzema feeling" after swimming.
It ain't nirvana yet, but it is much much better now.

I hope we never back down. With the huge market for automobiles in California, the auto makers will have to buckle down. 35 million people can buy a lot of cars.

Convergence zones.  It has to do with the pacific ocean , mountains, and cold layer of medium to high altitude air trapping the emissions, we get it here in Seattle too.

California's biggest problem was before the use of unleaded gas, in the late 50's and early 60's.

[midnight Target]

True Rip.

When the first settlers arrived in this valley in the 1840's the Indians already called it the "valley of the smoke". The inversion layer here is very pronounced. The local University (UCR, Sikboys alma mater) is the number one study facility for Air Quality and Pollution in the Country, and perhaps the World.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by midnight Target
True Rip.

When the first settlers arrived in this valley in the 1840's the Indians already called it the "valley of the smoke". The inversion layer here is very pronounced. The local University (UCR, Sikboys alma mater) is the number one study facility for Air Quality and Pollution in the Country, and perhaps the World.

Damn, that was the indians?  I thought it was in reference to Berkley in the '60's (shrugs)

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Ripsnort


Damn, that was the indians?  I thought it was in reference to Berkley in the '60's (shrugs)

You're thinking of "The valley of the GOOD smoke", Thats in Humbolt Cty.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by midnight Target
 The local University (UCR, Sikboys alma mater) is the number one study facility for Air Quality and Pollution in the Country, and perhaps the World.

Yep, and you don't have to be a scientist to draw your own conclusions " WTF is wrong with this place "

The university is Nestled up against a nice sized foothill, and I think all the polution from the LA Basin and the Inland Empire sits right there and makes bets with mother nature on how many freshmen it can make cry.

-Sikboy

PS: The summer Air in Riverside wasn't as bad as the spring pollen in DC though. At least the pollen settles down after a short while.