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Offline MrBill

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« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2002, 07:06:12 PM »
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It is a tragedy of the first magnitude.  If you have never stood in one of those forests on a frosty morning late in October, with the sun on the edge of the horizon casting its pale light on the brilliant yellows and golds and reds of hickory and oak and beech, then you have not lived a full life.  

Prosperity should not come at such a price.


Regards, Shuckins


I hear you man!

LOL udie


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Well not exactly but darn close.
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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #61 on: July 23, 2002, 07:32:21 PM »
So, we know there is a global warming happening.

We know that humans have had some affect on the warming.

And some of you just would rather stick your head in the sand and hope it goes away. Or even better, hope that the bad stuff happens after you are dead. sheesh :rolleyes:
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« Reply #62 on: July 23, 2002, 07:50:05 PM »
No one will believe that global warming is a problem unless a major western city is destroyed because of it.  And then it will be too late.

I'm not going to worry about about it to much for the next 4 or 5 years.  If things go the way I expect them to, then I will begin to plan on taking care of me and mine.  If things do take a turn for the worse though I fully expect the vast majority of people to ignore it until it's way to late.  People's capacity for denile is truely out standing.

If things don't take a turn for the worse, then fantastic one less thing to worry about.
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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #63 on: July 23, 2002, 07:58:03 PM »
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Global warming would be a bad thing, especially if it were to become self accelerating. Since we agree humans have some affect, can't we also agree that we should do what we can to minimize it?


I'm all fer that. Lets all spark up fatties and buy time shares at the new tropical resorts on Hudson Bay.
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« Reply #64 on: July 23, 2002, 08:08:36 PM »
When I was a kid in the 70's I remember the gas crunch.  My mom was a "green".  She had this little green paper circle thing that she kept in the back window of the car.  Every other day the green's could get gas, on the other day the red's got gas.   I remember the commercials, especialy the ones they played during saturday morning cartoons, that said by the year 2000 we'd be out of oil!  They used scare tactics on children for Christ's sake! and they were either not telling the truth or stupid.  They were wrong for doing it and they were trying to influence the way the population behaved and even "indoctrinate" the kids while thier minds are still forming and more vunerable to this type of tactic.

 I don't see this any diferent.   Do humans affect the atmospere? the environment?  Of course we do, we are part of the same system!!!! Duh!  Do we affect it in a negative or positive way?  Personaly I don't think we have been studying it long enough to be able to answer that question honestly.  Surely to me the answer has enough doubt that I will not support or want to give any money to any government to try and fix a problem that I'm not sure exist.  I believe that the government (most if not all of them too) will use this issue simply to get more cash from us.  That's the track record of the US gov anyway. Mo money Mo money!

 Look at the pictures of the industrial revolution.  I have never seen anything like that in my life.  The worst air polution I've seen is in houston durring rush hour traffic.  Get non focil fuel burning vehicles and I think you solve that problem, if it is one. Those are coming and I bet we have them within the next 20 years, I hope so anyway.


 oops I've got global warming goin on, gotta split :)
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« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2002, 08:12:59 PM »
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we have the means to stop global warming now, we set off a number of nuclear bombs in uninhabited areas and the debris will go into the upper atmospher and block the suns rays ,there by cooling off the planet, but we must be carefull not to over do it and cause nuclear winter.
 i am sure the scientists who can measure a change in the oceans level to accuracy of 1 MM can figure out the mega tonnage


I agree, John, and if we use one or two too many Nukes and we start getting cooler then all we have to do is burn more fossil fuels to restart the global warming cycle. I'm sure we can control our climate with a combination of nuclear warheads and fossil fuels.
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« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2002, 09:18:08 PM »
Is this like the theory that chugging ice cold Martinis will make you lose weight, because it lowers your body temperature, and you burn more calories warming up than the martini contained?  :D

It is not a matter of it is ... it aint ... is so ... aint so.  It is a matter of not having sufficient hard data to prove or disprove either theory.  Statistics can be manipulated to both prove, and disprove, both sides of the same argument.  A person who has not spent a equal amount of time researching the opposite side of an argument is not a person to be relied on, to put forth, (with any unbiased agenda) the side they support.

I'm outta here.
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« Reply #67 on: July 24, 2002, 01:51:50 AM »
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I agree, John, and if we use one or two too many Nukes and we start getting cooler then all we have to do is burn more fossil fuels to restart the global warming cycle. I'm sure we can control our climate with a combination of nuclear warheads and fossil fuels.


Elfenwolf, no one likes a smart ass. :D

By the by, anyone know how many chickens died in the last heat wave in the northern US, south-eastern Ontario?

Heheh...don't worry about it...everything is just fine.  :D
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« Reply #68 on: July 24, 2002, 08:51:40 AM »
well... we admit the whole thing is anything but an exact science... we admit there is a chance that humans can affect the planet.    The problem comes when the domseday guys get ahold of your money and your freedom.

It's not too bad to make car manufactures llimit pollutants down to a reasonable level but it becomes silly to require miniscule further reductions that cost thousand of dollars per unit and do less good than banning weedeaters for a week.

Rude... thanks.. I will continue doing what I have been doing... patting myuself on the back the weeks when the experts agree with my lifestyle and calling em quacks the weeks that they don't.

I don't see no proof... I don't even see no proof that "by the time we get proof it will be too late!!"    
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« Reply #69 on: July 24, 2002, 02:45:23 PM »
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By the by, anyone know how many chickens died in the last heat wave in the northern US, south-eastern Ontario?

Heheh...don't worry about it...everything is just fine.

Oooh, a heatwave!  How bizarre!!  We're GUILTY, GUILTY!
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« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2002, 03:54:02 PM »
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AlGore was Right!


Had to happen sooner or later, ya know what they say about 100 monkeys with 100 typewriters. :)
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« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2002, 04:10:18 PM »
All you Ostriches are gonna have sunburned butts.... you'll see!!
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« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2002, 04:50:09 PM »
the forest fires start in approx. 28 minutes!!!!!!! :D
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« Reply #73 on: July 24, 2002, 04:59:34 PM »
OK, so now all the tree huggers give up electricity, gas for your car, petroleum products, medicines that come from catalytic processes, no avaition of any kind, air conditioning, heating, COMPUTERS, and just about everything else we consider useful in todays society. I agree with all, but just like the issue in the middle east, it's a pipe dream to think that ANYTHING is going to make it go away. The human race by it's exsistance WILL polute and there really aint a damn thing that will fix it.

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Offline Toad

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« Reply #74 on: July 24, 2002, 05:16:21 PM »
Record temperatures for July:

New York City - 105 in 1966

Salt Lake - 107 in 1960

Obviously, detailed in depth research shows that it's been cooling down since the 60's.  :)
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