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Offline ~Caligula~

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« on: July 28, 2002, 09:09:54 AM »
So far they killed a 13 years old arab girl and wounded many more,coming home from the funreral of one of the victims of the car ambush that happened a few days ago.

sigh.....they just lowered themselves to their enemies level.
I hope they will be punished hard.

Offline Nashwan

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2002, 09:29:12 AM »
Do you think the IDF will put the settlement they came from under 30 day curfew? Launch airstrikes to kill the men responsible? Demolish their houses and deport their relatives?

No, I don't either.

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2002, 12:10:17 PM »
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Originally posted by Nashwan
Do you think the IDF will put the settlement they came from under 30 day curfew? Launch airstrikes to kill the men responsible? Demolish their houses and deport their relatives?

No, I don't either.


If a US citizen kills a non-US citizen in some random US town (or some other place where US law applies), do you think the US army should enforce a 30 day curfew in that town? Do you think the USAF should launch airstrikes to kill the citizen responsible? Should the US army move in, demolish the suspects house and deport his relatives?

Not really a good idea...right? Might even be a good idea to let domestic US law handle that one? (Hint: use this example to guid you to an answer to your question)

On the other hand, what if a terrorist (who is not a US citizen) kills alot of US citizens in a terrorist attack. Would it be ok to send the US army and the USAF after that terrorist, his house, his relatives? (Hint: make any comparrison with 9-11, Afghanistan and AlQeida you want if it makes it easier to come up with an answer)
« Last Edit: July 28, 2002, 12:22:37 PM by Hortlund »

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2002, 12:44:37 PM »
I've no respect for either side. They don't even know what they are fighting about anymore.. tit for tat for tit for tat.. on and on and on.. retribution for what? its so sandbox/childish. Of course they will never stop fighting, its like the catholics/protestant deal in Ireland. Taught from childhood to hate the other side to carry on some age-old religious feud.  Killing because your imaginary friend tell you to in HIS name.. friggin' nuts.

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2002, 02:17:24 PM »
It's not a good idea to treat two different population groups in the same area differently.

Right now, there's a lot of Palestinians thinking that the Israelis only care about Jewish lives, and couldn't care less how many Palestinians die. Result = more terrorist attacks.

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2002, 03:38:52 PM »
Cal...the rioting started when the Palestinians started throwing stones at the funeral procession.  Seems to me that if you've got half a brain, you aren't going to goad a group of mourners after your people killed the victim in question.

I hope the Israelis crack down on those settlers that killed that girl too.  I also hope those handsomehunk Palestinians that started lobbing rocks at the mourners get arrested and jailed.

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2002, 02:49:14 AM »
i reckon the palestinies are at fault
first of all:
they go suiciding and taking down innocent israeli civilians down with them and dont mention nothing about the geneva convention.
they aim for civilians and then hide behind children and women for cover.
2nd:
every time a cease fire was in effect, it was always the palestinies who broke it and israel do not retaliate until a warning has been given several times and palestinis ignores them all.
3rd: practically the bombers live in civilian occupied areas and in order for the israeli army to search out them, they must go into the residential areas. hasn't anyone seen the tapes of roomloads of bombs been uncovered in palestinine buildings???
4th:
Palestinines claims of Israeli army slaughtering innocent ppl in refugee camps is full of toejam...
...if so, how come there are bullet holes all over the place, surely an evidence of a firefight has taken place.
5th: Israel tries to capture suicide bombers but they can't cause the bombers blow themselves up before the army can catch them. so israel put their families in exile. this is just an example for those other bombers to not kill israelis because their families will the get consequences. and wat the hell those palestine do and say israel does not follow the geneva convention!!!!does palestine's killing of innocent civilians go under the rules of the geneva convention???? ha!

I reckon the war in the middle east should end. either palestine agree to peace in the long term and stop planning those ridiculous suicide attack or israel can just put a curfew on palestine forever. after all no one dies in a curfew...
...and why the hell are the media doing defending those "poor people blow themselves up to kill others"
its outrageous!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2002, 02:52:22 AM »
at least aim for israeli army if the palestines dare.. wat do they do??? they aim for innocent ppl...
they killed a family including father mother and daughter...doesn't anyone think bfore doing anything over there???? sooooo stupid!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2002, 03:12:10 AM »
Not that I'm trying to excuse the murder, but the palestinians
shouldnt throw rocks  on a funeralparty in the first place.

Peter.

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2002, 03:13:00 AM »
Yeah Snowball; I heard some mofo dropped a 1 ton bomb straight to the town in there and by doing do killed 15 people which 9 was childrens.

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2002, 03:38:55 AM »
Yeaaa!!! I hope they all kill each other. I mean it's exactly what both sides want. So when every Israeli and every Palestenian is dead both sides will be happy in hell because they "won"!  Yeaaa! :(

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2002, 03:52:44 AM »
I am a Bomb Technician. I was fortunate enough today to speak with one of the leading members of the Israeli Police Bomb Disposal Group in person. He spent 2 1/2 hours telling us what it is like over there and what he and his men have to do on a daily basis with video evidence in support..

There are 2 sides to every story and i've heard 1.  This bloke was honest, upfront, not the type to exagerate or make more of himself or his group than was necessary and I have absolutely no reason to doubt that he told me nothing but the truth.

You only hear about the ones that the Palestinians manage to get off, but not about the many hundreds that are intercepted before they kill and maim that dont make the news.  To give you an idea of their workload.  They attend about 200 Incidents a week.  Yes...a week. Deliberately targetting Civilian targets including Ambulances.

They are in a Combat zone.  Targetted by their enemies and for all intensive purposes definately the bravest men, ive ever met.

Their own life is second to the innocents around them. Some of the stories are quite unbelieveable but true.

There is no point in argueing who is right and who is wrong.  Noone over there is innocent but if half of what this gentleman was saying is true and I believe it is, then most of the Media dribble we get in the Western world concerning the Palistinian Martyers is largely BS and they have a lot more to answer for than we hear about over here.

But that is the nature of War.

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2002, 08:11:17 AM »
I`m sure nobody here has any doubt about what side I`m on.
 When I started this tread I didn`t know about the pals starting it by throwing rocks..(what a surprise,they`ve never been known to do such thing)
But even than I can`t justify people running down a street and shooting up others randomly.They should have let the army or the police deal with it.

I never said israelis are all angels.I`m sure that it was perfectly clear that taking out that hamas dipshit will result in many civilian deaths.I guess they figured the public outrage will blow over with time,and at least they`ve killed a hard to get terrorist leader.
BTW if that guy really cared about he`s people he wouldn`t hide between all those kids,when he knows he`s wanted and he`s sole presence puts others in danger.
But it was still a stupid move in my oppinion.Doing the same that the US was doing in Vietnam.

Israel IS the best ally of the USA in this war against terror.
They fight terror every day.I`m sure the intelligence info that US gets from them is very useful.And don`t forget about who the allies asked about how to deal with arab airdefences before the Gulf War based on the IAF`s performance over the Bekaa Valley.
I`m sure there`s absolutelly no debate there wether Saddam should be taken out or not.But all these europian popsicle governments are just whining about no evidence and such BS.
1936 re-enacted as far as I see it.

Iraq needs to be hit,Saddam captured and taken around the world in a cage so everyone who wants to could spit on him,then publicly hanged at where the WTC used to be.

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2002, 08:25:18 AM »
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Iraq needs to be hit,Saddam captured and taken around the world in a cage so everyone who wants to could spit on him,then publicly hanged at where the WTC used to be.



What about adding the Saoudian scumbags ?

Why do we keep thoses bastards in charge ?

Because of their petrol  ...

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2002, 11:18:49 AM »
~Caligula~: I`m sure there`s absolutelly no debate there wether Saddam should be taken out or not...
Iraq needs to be hit,Saddam captured and taken around the world in a cage so everyone who wants to could spit on him,then publicly hanged at where the WTC used to be.

 What did he ever do to us before and after we attacked him in defence of the Kuwaiti princes?
 Of all the countries in the region Iraq is the most progressive and reasonable - an actual secular state with a "president" rather than a monarch. We should have supported him against rotten religious monarchies rather than driven him closer to the fundamentalists.

straffo: What about adding the Saudian scumbags?
Why do we keep thoses bastards in charge ?
Because of their petrol ...

 Not really. Iraq would have sold us the same saudi and kuwaiti oil at the same price. Saudi prices managed to manupulate us into fighting their enemy for them - at the same time sicking their population on us to divert them from internal problems.

 miko