Italian/ Japanes Tanks

[Viper17]

With all this talk about Russian, German and American tanks, we have forgotten about 2 countrys that used them. Yes that right im taking about Italy and Japan. See we can perhaps put up with the 3 major tank users (including the Brits but im to tired to look up there stuff:p ) for a while. But when you want to use another tank your limited to your country of choice. The first tank i will show is the SEMOVENTI da 75/18. Here is the info and data from comandosupremo.com
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Colonel Berlese, a high ranking Italian artillery officer, first made the suggestion to create a vehicle similar to the German StuG III, which had much success in the French campaign. The first Semovente da 75/18 (Self-Propelled Gun) protype was delivered on 10 Feb 1941 and showed much promise. A order of 60 other units were ordered, all of which were delivered in 1941 and shipped to the Italian divisions in Libya in Jan 1942.

Initially, the Semovente da 75/18 was internally identical to the M13/40, the major difference being the 75 mm Ansaldo L/18 field gun fixed in the superstructure, and the obvious upper hull changes. By 1942, Italy was producing armored vehicles that were better suited for desert conditions than their previous models, and the Semovente da 75/18 was considered an interim vehicle until the heavier "P" tanks could be produced. The Semoventi 75/18 were quite effective against the U.S. built M3 Grant and M4 Sherman medium tanks utilized by the British Army.

These units were of good quality and very respected in the deserts of N. Africa, and the use of the Italian 75 mm EP (Effetto Pronto; Ready Effect, or HESH rounds), allowed for the piercing of 2.8 inches (70mm) of armor plating. A total of 60 vehicles were built using the M-13/40 hull, and 162 using the M41 chassis (M 14-41 hull).

CLASS Sem. da 75/18
WEIGHT 14 tons
CREW 4
RATE OF FIRE 4 rnds/min
FIRE RANGE 10,280 yards
SPEED 18.6 mph
WEAPONS 75mm L/18
with 44 rounds
Breda Model 38 MG (early models)
6.5mm Breda Model 30 MG  
ELEVATION -11º to +22.5º

[Viper17]

Now for the Japanese Tank. Info from http://www.wwiivehicles.com/

Type 89 Chi-Ro

Crew- Commander, loader, driver, gunner-hull
Physical Characteristics- Weight 89A: 28,000 lb, 12.7, 13 tons
89B: 28,660, 25,353 lb, 11,500 kg, 13 tons
Length w/gun- 18' 10.25",
89A: 16' 8", 5.1 m
89B: 14' 1"
Length w/o gun  
Height- 8' 5"
89B: 7' 2"
Width- 7' 2"
89A: 7' 3", 2.2 m
89B: 7'

Ground clearance  

Ground contact length  

Ground pressure  

Turret ring diameter  

Armament (mm)- Main 57 mm Model 90

Secondary- MG 6.5 mm MG Type 91, turret rear, hull

Side arms  

Quantity

Main- 100

Secondary- MG 2,745

Side arms  

Armor Thickness (mm)  
Hull Front, Upper 17
Hull Front, Lower 17
Hull Sides, Upper 17
Hull Sides, Lower 17
Hull Rear 17
Hull Top 10
Hull Bottom 6
Turret Front 17
Turret Sides 15
Turret Rear 15
Turret Top 10

Engine (Make / Model) 89A: Daimler water cooled, Mitsubishi
89B: Mitsubishi air cooled
Cylinders 6

Net HP 89A: 118, 105
89B: 115, 120 @ 1,800 rpm

Transmission 4 speed

Fuel type 89A: Gasoline
89B: Diesel

Octane  

Capacity  

Performance  

Traverse 360°

Max Speed 89A: 15, 15.5 mph, 24.1 kph
89B: 15.5, 17, 25 mph

Cross Country  

Road radius 89A: 87 miles
89B: 100, 106 miles

Turning Radius  

Elevation Limits  

Fording depth 3' 3"

Trench crossing 8' 3", 6' 7"

Vertical Obstacle 2' 9", 3'

Suspension (Type) Leaf Spring

Wheels each side 9

Return rollers each side 89A: 5
89B: 4  

Track length  

Tires  

Track width 12"

Track centers/tread  

Production 1932 -
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/

[Karnak]

I think the M8 Greyhound can be used to adequately simulate the most common Japanese tanks (The Type 89 was rare).

The big tank users need their tanks first.  The four biggies would be Germany, Russia, USA and UK.

[Mitsu]

Type 89 Tank is WWI tank...I want to see Type 3 Chi-Nu Tank if HTC models Japanese tank.

[brady]

Clearly if the choice were to be made the Type 89 and the Sem. da 75/18 would be the choices for Japan and Italy, in fact instead of a Stug. III would prefer the Italian tank just for the sake of modeling diversity. I did hear it their was a cold front moving into H!ll so it could happen.

[SELECTOR]

didnt most japanese tank just perform like pressure steamers
?