Author Topic: P-40f (Read 403 times)

BaD kaRmA 158Th · « **on:** August 01, 2002, 05:53:57 AM »

Well, i figure if we have a p-38L "not j *shrugs*"

Why stick with the typical p40b p40e
can we have "one" more p40 version..we have 4 p-47's and the

Plane type: Single-seat fighter or fighter-bomber
Manufacturer: Curtiss
Crew: 1 (pilot)
Dimensions
Length: 33ft 1 and 3.75 in. (10.14 meters)
Height: 12ft 2in (3.7 meters)
Wingspan: 37ft 3.5in (11.36 meters)
Wing Area: 236 sq. ft (21.9 sq. m)

Powerplant

- P-40F: 1 x Packard V-1650-1 (Rolls Royce Merlin 28 engine)

Weights (P-40F)

Empty: 6550 lbs (2974 kg)
Weight loaded: 8720 lbs (3960 kg)
Armament (P-40F)
- 3 x .50-cal machine guns in each wing
- 1 x bomb rack under fuselage capable of carrying one 100-600 lb bomb
- 1 x bomb rack under each wing capable of carrying one 100-500 lb bomb each or one fuel tank each

Performance (P-40F)

Maximum speed: 364 mph (582 Km/h) @ 20000 ft (6100 m)

Cruising speed: 300 mph (480 Km/h)
Economical cruising speed: 220-245 mph (352-392 Km/h)
Normal range: 610 miles (976 km) at 310 mph (496 Km/h)
Maximum range (with auxiliary fuel tank): 12000 miles (1920 km) at 210 mph (336 Km/h)

Ceiling: 33000 ft (10060 m)

Come on, pleeeeeease...

I would like to see abnormal plane numbers here..planes NOT common..because lets face it..not every squadron had vintadge p51's or f4u's..if they were lucky the damn things flew at all.
Not every hq got BRAND new planes..not like they could go..yay new p-51's came in..time to burn the p-47's.
Remember to us pilots..planes are metal birds..to our grease monkey's..there flying bolts and wires, who always need overhauling in the worst times.

BaD kaRmA, out.

Soviet · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2002, 01:06:25 AM »

A new P40 would be really nice but America has enough planes for now, germany is in desprate need of a decent non-perked bomber (He-177 please

), britain could use a few more planes and Russia, Italy, and Japan (ESPECIALLY JAPAN I CAN'T STRESS HOW MUCH JAPAN NEEDS MORE PLANES ENOUGH) are in DESPRATE need of more planes. Priorities, priorities.

oh and (points to signature)

Targo · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2002, 04:48:58 AM »

Soviet how about couple Polish or French planes ? they fought the WW2 too

Poland :

PZL P-11
PZL P-23 Karas
PZL P-24
PZL P-37 Los
PZL P-50 Jastrzab

France :

dunno

Kweassa · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2002, 05:15:35 AM »

Priority lies in IJN/IJAF, VVS planes.
Both USAAF/USN and LW are the lowest in priority.

All that US planes and German planes needs currently is a facelift in the quality that the Spitfires received.

Widewing · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2002, 10:01:12 AM »

I believe that the P-40N would be a better choice. Largely because the P-40F was manufactured in lesser numbers, and its service was largely confined to North Africa, Sicily and Italy.

Ironically, the Packard Merlin installed in the P-40F only marginally improved performance at altitude. However, with the updraft carb, it proved to be far more susceptable to ingestion of sand and dust than the P-40E/K/M which had its carb inlet atop the engine cowling, rather than sharing space with the radiator and oil cooler cores as did the P-40F. As a result, the P-40F suffered increased maintenance needs as well as a higher engine failure rate than the Allison power aircraft.

My regards,

Widewing

fdiron · « **Reply #5 on:** August 02, 2002, 10:27:01 AM »

The designers of the P40 never worked out the problems of having an airscoop (similar to that of the P51). This caused a major loss in performance. Ironically, it was found that if the airscoop has simply been lowered a few inches it would have been out of the aircrafts 'slipstream' (there is a technical name for this, I have forgotten).

2Slow · « **Reply #6 on:** August 02, 2002, 11:16:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Targo
Soviet how about couple Polish or French planes ? they fought the WW2 too

Poland :

PZL P-11
PZL P-23 Karas
PZL P-24
PZL P-37 Los
PZL P-50 Jastrzab

France :

dunno

Not for long. Most of the Polish Air Force was destroyed on the ground.

BaD kaRmA 158Th · « **Reply #7 on:** August 02, 2002, 04:33:59 PM »

P-40N was the plane i ment to say, sorry.

Yeah the f was not to much of an upgrade.

But i read the N version as some what better at low alts than all other versions.

Dont have evedance to back it up tho, anyone?

Others say the americans dont need more planes, but i think there wrong...i see most pilots flying in la-7's spits..the p-38's never get used.
the p51's prop pull over keeps it from being ran in a dogfight going under 250mph.. "ie you cant take off with out flying straight then attacking" not like a spit or a zero or a hawker who can PULL themselvs thru the air RIGHT after takeoff and get a kill climbing 30 degreese up attacking a plane that diveing on them.

I think this games got the spit fires mixed up with diddlyin' UFO's..even them antigravity machines have more effect with gravity than spits do..and heaven forbid they have a thing like turn overs.

Anyhow..as of now the only real oprations all good fighters is the p40.

The 109 turnes climbes dives great.
same thing with the spits
same thing with the zeros.
name one american craft who can do all this all with out going into a spin/stall operating under 300mph?

Answer none.

BaD kaRmA, out.

thrila · « **Reply #8 on:** August 02, 2002, 04:59:59 PM »

LOL!:D

SKurj · « **Reply #9 on:** August 02, 2002, 06:08:58 PM »

F6F
Fm2

SKurj

Soviet · « **Reply #10 on:** August 02, 2002, 07:08:38 PM »

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Originally posted by 2Slow

Not for long. Most of the Polish Air Force was destroyed on the ground.

A lot were destroyed on the ground but the polish planes that fought killed more planes than losses. Don't doubt the polish pilots, the ones that made their way to england really put on one hell of a fight for the LW.

Also I agree about the USAAF and USN planes having the least priority. But the LW needs just a few more things until it get's the distinction of "low priority" Most needed is a Heavy Buff (HE-177!!!)

whgates3 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 03, 2002, 01:23:04 PM »

Ja, F6F Hellcat roolz - climbs off the CV deck w/ > 2750 lbs ordinance loaded - i cant get the F4U off w/ more than ~ 1500 lbs loaded

mora · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2002, 01:52:51 PM »

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Originally posted by whgates3
Ja, F6F Hellcat roolz - climbs off the CV deck w/ > 2750 lbs ordinance loaded - i cant get the F4U off w/ more than ~ 1500 lbs loaded

I have never had too much trouble taking off in a fully loaded hog. It just needs a few notches of flap.

AdmRose · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2002, 02:17:00 PM »

Don't forget the FM2, I can pull that thing off the airfield and right into a dogfight with no problems whatsoever.

whgates3 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2002, 11:54:11 PM »

mora, but you're not handicapped w/ my lack of ability & knowledge - thx