Author Topic: ATI Radeon 9700 (Read 1140 times)

Skuzzy · « **Reply #45 on:** August 01, 2002, 04:47:23 PM »

Generally speaking Gunthr,...most folks do not have enough horsepower in thier computers to push the card, so they pretty much all agree to just turn up everything they can to slow the card down (1600x1200x32, 6X FSAA, AA filtering....).

Of course, it all depends on the game as well. DoomIII taxes the heck outta everything, and UT2003 is right behind it.

Overall, I would say your CPU is probably the slowest I would run with this card or a NV30 card.

Gunthr · « **Reply #46 on:** August 01, 2002, 09:20:53 PM »

Amazing, Skuzzy.

Thanks...

bloom25 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 02, 2002, 12:41:52 AM »

I'd actually heard from a couple places on the web that those screenshots weren't real.

If NV30 hasn't actually taped out yet nVidia is going to have to work REAL hard to get it out by Christmas. If they haven't even got real silicon to test there's an awful lot of testing yet to do before you can even speculate on a release date (timing and test vector verification).

I think this is actually the first time in nVidia's existance since the TNT 1 that they are actually playing catch up!

Skuzzy · « **Reply #48 on:** August 02, 2002, 07:45:43 AM »

As I had speculated before, ATI is definately going tohave 2 versions of the 9700. The base 9700 and the 9700 Pro, which will have a core clock of 325Mhz. The base 9700 is either going to be 300Mhz or 275Mhz. I do not have firm data on this yet.
The 9700Pro will come standard with 128MB of DDR ram.

NOTE: The R300 does have a DDRII ram interface as well, so I expect when that ram becomes available in quantity ATI will roll out another version of the 9700.

Here is a picture of the 9700Pro

Skuzzy · « **Reply #49 on:** August 02, 2002, 07:53:59 AM »

Okay, here is the Hercules version of the 9700. NOTE: This version is clocked at 300Mhz, but it is pretty.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #50 on:** August 02, 2002, 08:04:14 AM »

If you look closely at the above 2 pics, you will note they are exactly the same PC board.

Of course, Hercules goes with the blue board and heat sinks on the ram chips, with a different fan.

Basically, no matter whose R300 based board you get, you have the same board. ATI has incorporated the video DAC's into the R300 (400Mhz) so video display quality cannot be effected by whatever company builds one.

Also note: Anyone considering this card will also need to think about upgrading the power supply in your computer. The card draws around 55Watts of power, so if you have a high end system with a 400W supply, you may want to think about upping it.
Of course, more power means more heat. Cooling will be critical. Just some stuff to think about.

wolf37 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 04, 2002, 12:44:12 AM »

Hiya all:

Well this is the comp I am buying, please tell me what you think.

Intel Pentium 4 2.0 GHz Processor
ECS P4 Mainboard w/ Audio
512 MB DDR RAM
Intel P4 ATX Case w/ 250 Watt Power Supply
1.44 MB Disk Drive
Seagate 60 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
My video card...VOODOO 5 5500 PCI
Altec Lansing 2 Speakers w/ Sub-woofer
Fujitsu 8725 Keyboard
Customer Supplied - Mouse
56K V.90 Internal Modem
GVC 10/100 Network Interface Card
LG 52X CD-ROM
LG DVD-CDRW 8x12x8x32
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

I am also putting in my sound card..Creative something or other, it works ok.

so what do you think, does it look like a good system. yes I am still a computer dweeb.

DAVENRINO · « **Reply #52 on:** August 04, 2002, 03:53:51 AM »

Wolf,
That power supply is pretty small; especially if you ever want to upgrade to one of the new power hungry vid cards.
DJ229

-lynx- · « **Reply #53 on:** August 06, 2002, 12:32:24 PM »

Hmmm... Looking at these things I can't help but remember my discovery of the most noisy component in my current rig - the fan of GF3Ti. I got a really quiet and pretty cooler for the CPU but that little bugger is still screaming it's head off:(. I wonder when the manufacturers realise that amount of noise the cards make is probably illegal in some countries?