Author Topic: USB Problems or Conflicts (Read 245 times)

Goth · « **on:** August 06, 2002, 02:17:48 PM »

Ok guys, got a problem need help with and finally after about 6 months of intermittently messing with it I am coming here for help.

My good friend xBat mailed his ch pro pedals, USB style. I can get the pedals configured in Windows (which is version 98) and have them work fine.

My stick is connected to the computer via the sound card, and to date when the pedals are NOT plugged in I have no problem. Now, I go to configure the pedals in game and sometimes I get that axis that needs to show that the pedals are detected. Everything good to go so far, however, most of the time I can't get the game to recognize the pedals and give me that weird axis to configure.

Next problem, pedals are configured, hit takeoff. BAM!.....sounds card freaks out....all I get is a whining noise much like xBat makes when I do manage to shoot him down.

Near as I can figure...as I am ripping everything apart to put it back like it was before I messed with the pedals....is that I am having a hardware conflict, hence the sound card sounding like a banshee from hell. Looking in the system files, I note that I have about 5 items on the same channel as the sound card. I can't for the life of me figure out either through assigning a change or looking for jumpers on my motherboard how to spread that out. I have moved the cards about the motherboard hoping they get detected on a different channel time and time again, but it never works. I am about as frustrated as all hell about now.

I have never flown with rudder pedals before and I feel like this is the next level which will push me over into being a consitently decent pilot. Am I forever doomed to fly without rudder input? Is there a cable I can buy that will allow me to plug the pedals into the sound card and plug the joystick into the pedal some kind of way like a Y cable? Would buying a gameport make a difference?

Btw, please don't ask me the type of motherboard. It's about a year old and comp never came with a motherboard manual. If I'm not mistaken it's an Aser and I wanna say model V770 or some such....I know that's not much help, but I really feel that I'm either looking at buying another motherboard (sic), gameport card, or something as simple as cables.

Give it your best shot here and sorry for the lengthy post.

Goth
^"^ Nazgul

SKurj · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2002, 05:40:39 PM »

get a usb stick, or at least a USB adapter permitting you to use your stick thru usb

you will be glad u did...

SKurj

Goth · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2002, 10:30:41 AM »

You might be right about that, but that doesn't resolve the conflict I am having between USB and sound card. What I might do this weekend is get a USB adaptor and pull out that sound card. There is an onboard sound card with the mainboard, but it prolly sucks.

SKurj · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2002, 01:07:13 PM »

i was kinda hoping once u no longer used the gameport the soundcard would be fine

another thing to check:

make sure the usb is not sharing an irq with the sound card
(u may have to physically move the soundcard to another slot)

SKurj

Goth · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2002, 01:19:29 PM »

Yes...it is an IRQ conflict with the sound card and the and USB ports. Everything is getting assigned to channel 11. I've moved the sound card about...looked for jumpers, nothing.

Last night I bought another card for USB and it got detected on IRQ 10 with sound card on 11....same problem. It will work fine in windows, but in AH I don't get the RZ axis to configure and sometimes my sound card freaks on me. I'm stumped!

Correction on the mainboard type...it is an Asus K7 type board.

SKurj · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2002, 05:24:03 PM »

mebbe a silly question... but have you checked for new drivers for the sound card?

and try the onboard sound and see what happens..

SKurj

spiffykraits · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2002, 06:49:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Goth
Yes...it is an IRQ conflict with the sound card and the and USB ports. Everything is getting assigned to channel 11. I've moved the sound card about...looked for jumpers, nothing.

Last night I bought another card for USB and it got detected on IRQ 10 with sound card on 11....same problem. It will work fine in windows, but in AH I don't get the RZ axis to configure and sometimes my sound card freaks on me. I'm stumped!

Correction on the mainboard type...it is an Asus K7 type board.

You can assign interupts normally in the PCI configuration in the advanced BIOS features for a particular slot which you reserve there. While most PCI cards will share, sound cards and SB cards in particular work best on their own interupt. (My SB live main interupt is on interupt 9 and no other cards use it because I set that in the bios for slot 3 where it resides, Soundblaster emulation gets assigned to interupt 5 by default but the actual card PCI interupt is 9)

If necessay if you have a network cards etc you may have to remove these, and any other cards except the video card, let windows assign the video interupt (usually 10 or 11), then decide which PCI slot for the sound, and reserve and assign it in bios, add the card to your reserved slot so that it is configured. Then add back your others after once the sound card is working correctly on the reserved interupt. If you have reserved the sound PCI slot, your USB will then be assigned to another shared resource, but not the sound card interupt.

Check the bios assignments for PCI slots, I haven't this particular Asus card but an earlier one, but it's usually fairly standard bios configuration on most modern PCs to be able to reserve or assign a slot, in addition to auto configuration. Just moving the cards around doesn't always work unless you get very lucky on the auto configuration, you have to assign the slot to the sound card, else Windows will share it which you don't want.

btw you normally get into the bios on most PCs by pressing the delete button as it boots immediately after your video card details appear on the very top of the screen or as soon as it beeps. Be careful though and dont change any other defaults, or get someone whose familiar with bios configuations to talk you through (probably the best course of action IMO)