Author Topic: Hmmm (Read 658 times)

Kieran · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2002, 12:01:27 AM »

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FERC has said that flawed rules for California's deregulated electricity market contributed to dramatic price rises and power shortages in 2000 and 2001. It also is investigating alleged manipulation of prices by Enron Corp. and other energy companies.

Sounds to me like I might be right after all... not that Cheney didn't have a hand in what happened afterward...

john9001 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2002, 12:57:35 AM »

during the "great budget surplus" the govt was still selling govt bonds, explane why the govt had to brorrow money when it had a "surplus"?

Montezuma · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2002, 01:20:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Kieran

Again, this is ignorant. California made some bad choices all by themselves. Had they made good choices, no "bail outs" would have been necessary.

The whole thing should have remained controlled by the public and the state should have rejected Gov. Wilson's deregulation.

The regulated City of Los Angeles DWP has had no problems providing its customers with cheap power. The market rigging in the rest of the state by Enron and others is well documented and only those on their payroll (like Cheney) or those who have no concept of the public good (also like Cheney) continue to defend them.

Meanwhile, rednecks sucking on the tit of the federal TVA or other socialist rural electric programs (investments paid for by California and the rest of the country) squeak that California didn't deregulate 'enough'.

Montezuma · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2002, 01:24:06 AM »

Also, it is pretty dumb to discuss your controversial religious or political views with your customers

sidthekid · « **Reply #19 on:** August 12, 2002, 01:25:58 AM »

old joke about Saddam thought some may use it later.

Saddam is sitting at table having a coffe reading the US today newspaper. Headlines read " Saddam Hussin Biggest prettythanghole in world". He turns to his wife and says Honey do you think i'm biggest ahole in world. Well she knows if she answers he will kill her. so she says why don't you ask your magic mirror on the wall in your bedroom. so he goes in bedroom and says mirror on the wall am i the biggest prettythanghole of all? His wife can't hear the answer but he comes out with a dumbfounded look on his face and turns to her and asked" who in the %!#^!^ is IEN"

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #20 on:** August 12, 2002, 01:32:54 AM »

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Originally posted by sidthekid
old joke about Saddam thought some may use it later.

Saddam is sitting at table having a coffe reading the US today newspaper. Headlines read " Saddam Hussin Biggest prettythanghole in world". He turns to his wife and says Honey do you think i'm biggest ahole in world. Well she knows if she answers he will kill her. so she says why don't you ask your magic mirror on the wall in your bedroom. so he goes in bedroom and says mirror on the wall am i the biggest prettythanghole of all? His wife can't hear the answer but he comes out with a dumbfounded look on his face and turns to her and asked" who in the %!#^!^ is IEN"

ROFLMAO (wipin tears) Sid u fuggin killing me:D

10Bears · « **Reply #21 on:** August 12, 2002, 03:42:18 AM »

Explain how making people unemployed keeps them from getting uppity? What are these sources?

Who knows Kieran I’ve heard that theory before. Class structure in a classless society. Execs not wanting workers to look them in the eye.. Gated communities They not wanting regular folk to stand one on one.. Strange world. It seems bizarre to me that CEO’s would willfully defraud stockholders knowing full well they wouldn’t be able to keep up this accounting scam for long.. Not only would it ruin their company, it could tear down the entire economy. What drives that?.. Greed?.. plain and simple?.. I think it’s more than that --control, power. It’s late I don’t have the answer.. Like Cobra says... I need my meds.

But your right Jay doesn’t need to express his political views. It would be like Hitech weighing in on religion or politics on this forum. Never seen him do it.

whgates3 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 12, 2002, 03:45:26 AM »

At least nobody ever paid near 50% taxes to Hoover.
As technology advances to increase producivity & potentially make our lives more relaxing & enjoyable (lower toil fraction), governments quickly follow, collecting any gains made and turning it into perks & power for themselves

Cobra · « **Reply #23 on:** August 12, 2002, 08:13:12 AM »

10Bears,
Nah, I'll skin 'em here, son.

Cobra

Maniac · « **Reply #24 on:** August 12, 2002, 08:50:49 AM »

Burn the Witch!!!

Kieran · « **Reply #25 on:** August 12, 2002, 09:51:21 AM »

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But your right Jay doesn’t need to express his political views. It would be like Hitech weighing in on religion or politics on this forum. Never seen him do it.

I never said this. Jay can say whatever he wants, and I will judge the comment on its merits alone. Everyone is allowed an opinion about the way their country runs as far as I'm concerned.

I think you are attributing this to me in error.