Lets see who can answer all theses questions

[sidthekid]

1. which country was the first flying jet made.( not first engine) bonus question which year did it fly?

Romania is right or country Midnightand I'm sure you will find date for this too.


2.which country had a ACE pilot 33 kills and was a Woman. Bonus what was squad

This was kinda of trick question  Olga Yamschikova was most kills in air. But when allies went to counting kills on ground as air combat kills Nataalya Meklin had 14 air and 19 confirmed kills of aircraft either on taxiway or parked.


3. Which country would attach old unairworthy bombers to the bottom of their fighters and drop entire bomber loaded with bombs as 1 large bomb? bonus question Plane types

Very good midnight target you may need to reevalute your free time:)  190 with a ju88 was answer

4. Which country flew a bomber with a 70FT magnet attached to bottom. bonus why?

Right it was great britian Wellington bomber to exploded magnetic mines

One of you thought to disrupt radar. This was done by a new produt that most credit saving thousands of bomber crews and it was Aluminum foil.





5. Which country built the first Flying aircraft carrier. this was a plane you could fly to hook onto refuel re arm and fly away...

Well this couldv'e been misleading , I was looking for airplane used as a aircraft carrier my answer was Russia and it was the TB-3 called the Vakhmistrov's bouquet

6. Which country had a Submarine aircraft carrier.

WW2 in was Japan

7. Name the LAST plane type Eric Hartman flew for the German Airforce. Caution trick question

Wow great thought this would stump but  YES it was the F-106 the Jagdgeshwader 71

8. Which USA plane type had most kills over Japanese........

P-38

9. Which plane was nicnamed the Porcupine? This plane was attacked by 8 german planes. and was all alone it killed 3 of the attackers other 5 were badly damage and were sent limping home.

 wow another I thought would be tough.. Sunderland was called the tachelschwein- the porcupine..




10. Why were Nagasaki and Hiroshima, Spare bombings during war until august 1945?



 Another tough one and you got it right. Both were spared conventional bombing,Because United States want to see the effect of a nuclear bomb. These two were picked at the start of US nuclear program. Incase war was not over before bombs were ready. These two cites were not of much military importance.





 Results of this survey is Midnight Target needs to reevaluate his free time.




 Okay midnight What was only squadron that the marines flew P51's..........

[-tronski-]

Another tough one and you got it right. Both were spared conventional bombing,Because United States want to see the effect of a nuclear bomb. These two were picked at the start of US nuclear program. Incase war was not over before bombs were ready. These two cites were not of much military importance.

erk, being not so important to be bombed, but important enough to be nuked....lovely

 Tronsky

[sidthekid]

tronski    

   sorry but I think spareing Nagashi and hiroshima maybe why USA has never used nukes again since.Probally could be why no other has either.


 There are 2 sides to the use of Nuke 's in ww2. USA position is more people died in 1 night of conventional bombing of tokyo than died in both nuclear bombed cities combined. As matter of fact it was about 10 to 1 for conventional bombs than death by nuclear.


 And at least america Told japanese we were about to drop such a bomb and they didn't believe us.( now i guess most wouldn't) then after first we asked for surrender or we will drop another. Again they didn't think there could be 2 of these bombs. so we dropped again. Estimation is by dropping nuclear bombs we save 7-9 million lives with killing only less than 200 thousand. I for one think it was right mission. But wish it never had to come to this....

[Ripsnort]

So where are the correct answers?

Hartmanns last wing he was in command of was not the F-86.  It was the F104 Starfighter, I'm pretty sure....correct me.

[Shuckins]

Tronsky,

I'm afraid you're wrong about the P-38 my friend.  It did shoot down more Japanese aircraft than any other U.S. Army Air Force fighter.

Credited with some 5,200 victories, carrier- and land-based F6Fs destroyed as many Japanese aircraft as the P-38, P-40, P-47, P-51 and P-61 combined, including those in the landlocked China/Burma/India theater. (Barrett Tillman;  Most Influential Fighters, WW II Fighters, special edition of Flight Journal, winter 2000.)


Regards, Shuckins

[Kubwak]

if those "ju88 fighters" are like the ones we have in AH then the short sunderland flying boat would take care of them easy

[marauder]

Originally posted by sidthekid
   
There are 2 sides to the use of Nuke 's in ww2. USA position is more people died in 1 night of conventional bombing of tokyo than died in both nuclear bombed cities combined. As matter of fact it was about 10 to 1 for conventional bombs than death by nuclear.
 But wish it never had to come to this....

Yes, but problems with USA position:
1- Nukes after-affects (radiation) continue to kill and make
area uninhabitable for a long time afterwards.
2- With nukes, only one plane would have to get through
defenses of country being attacked and then decimate a whole city by itself.
3- Tokyo was a bigger and more densely populated city.
4- Conventional bombing was done on military targets and
     civilian; Nukes dropped on only civilians Sad and scary

[sidthekid]

Yes, but problems with USA position:
1- Nukes after-affects (radiation) continue to kill and make
area uninhabitable for a long time afterwards.
2- With nukes, only one plane would have to get through
defenses of country being attacked and then decimate a whole city by itself.
3- Tokyo was a bigger and more densely populated city.
4- Conventional bombing was done on military targets and
civilian; Nukes dropped on only civilians  Sad and scary





well to be honest Radiation at nagaski and hiroshima Are below level of radition in most USA Cities. It cleared faster than anyone thought it would.


Your number 4 the USA bombed tokyo with incendiary bombs and of the 1million plus dead were civilians.

[-dead-]

Originally posted by sidthekid
3. Which country would attach old unairworthy bombers to the bottom of their fighters and drop entire bomber loaded with bombs as 1 large bomb? bonus question Plane types

Very good midnight target you may need to reevalute your free time:)  190 with a ju88 was answer

Actually, 109 with ju88 is also acceptable





And the first Jet - the Coanda-1910 - flew (surprisingly enough, given it's name) in 1910.

[Masherbrum]

Sad and Scary ?   I beg to differ.   If those bombs HAD NOT been dropped the catastrophic amount of casualties would be "America's Fault", huh?   My grandfather was given the preemptive of orders (Operation Olympic) of landing at Yokohama Bay in Nov. of 1945.   He survived, Guam, Okinawa and the Occupation of China (was worse than the other two he said).   He wouldn't have made it home, HE even said it.  

Your convententional bomb statement is so far from the truth.  Any part of Tokyo was a "miltary target".  Are forgetting that the "Tokyo Fire Raids" bombs were dropped on a "military target", but 70mph + winds took care of the rest?  So was the "miltiary target" even a factor?  NO.

He lived it and experienced it, and had regret his whole life of throwing phospherous grenades into the caves of Oki. and hearing the screaming of the Japanese dying.  

Karaya2

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by sidthekid
Your number 4 the USA bombed tokyo with incendiary bombs and of the 1million plus dead  were civilians.

Someone needs to check his sources...

[GRUNHERZ]

"1- Nukes after-affects (radiation) continue to kill and make
area uninhabitable for a long time afterwards."

Total and utter roadkill! Both Hiroshima (1,130,000) and Nagasaki (430,000)  have been huge thiriving cities since the war.

But I suppose you hate the Japanese people so much that you would have rather had a likely year plus long invasion battle over all of Japanese home islands and all the resulting casualties.  Remember the Japanese took near 100% military casualties in Iwo Jima, Saipan and Okinawa- the civilans died in even greater numbers. So I suppose you would like millions of them dead insted of 200,000 to end the war. And there were some 73,000,000 ready to die Japanese during WW2.

[GRUNHERZ]

Oh sidthekid the total Japanese WW2 casualties were 1,076,967


1940:                 73,075,071    
1945:                 71,998,104  
Difference:         1,076,967


And these are from Japanese sources.

http://www9.ocn.ne.jp/~aslan/pfe/jpeak.htm

[Masherbrum]

GRUNHERZ .

Karaya2

[CyranoAH]

I think the issue here is not if it was right to drop the bombs or not (arguable, but a strategic decision, it's war), but if it was right to drop it on two cities with no strategic value, no military targets whatsoever, and with people that had lived there without even thinking about being a target for the entirety of the war.

Then suddenly, two cities are wiped out.

In my opinion, the japanese high command would have got the message simply by dropping the bomb on a military target... heck, even CLOSE to one.

Just drop one say 10 Km from a military target and say "see what we did? We can wipe out Tokyo with just one of those".

Anyway what it's done it's done, I just think they could've dropped them somewhere else with the same strategic results.

Daniel