Aces High Interview with Pyro

[DeeZCamp]

OH comeon... How could it be bad to implement later war aircraft????


IF it is realism/ or a more balanced planeset.. The Combat Arena is where ya should be... Good Time lines.. with aircraft that fought each other ...

Of course it would be very uber in the MA a few dozen 262's raiding a bunch of zeros! ;-)

But thats the nature of the MA.. its a Free for all furball of sorts (no offese to those that PLay strategically there)

[Karnak]

DeeZCamp,

Why should I be in the CT?

So I can have "fun" sitting in my 1941 Seafire while being straffed by 1944 Bf109G-10s?

Boy, that does sound fun.  And balanced too!!!!!

[Tac]

I like what I see, but as stated in the above posts, its really depressing to see the game go to late war only.

I almost jumped from joy when I saw the pic of the hurricane... but then I saw the model and the armament.. oh cripes. Brits got their Chog. I was hoping for the 12 X.303 version  

And no mention of any FM revisions to current AC... means it will be N1k and la7 zaking over ze world again.    

[funkedup]

Karnak there are Typhoons and Tempests in the CT.  

[Nashwan]

I almost jumped from joy when I saw the pic of the hurricane... but then I saw the model and the armament.. oh cripes. Brits got their Chog. I was hoping for the 12 X.303 version

4 years older, a third the ammo capacity, nearly 100mph slower. thanks for the Brit Chog  

Still, at least 1.08 looks like it's going to be balanced. Germany is to get AH's fastest fighter, USA is going to get the second fastest, and a plane so late it didn't even get into the war, Britain is going to get AH's oldest, slowest fighter.
WTG HTC  

[Karnak]

FunkedUp,

Yes, the Typhoon which is at its extreme range just to get to the Germans.  Spit IX is the same.  Its a long boring flight, so most people won't do it.  That means you're probably alone.  You get to the fight and get to see how long a single Typhoon or Spitfire IX can hold out against 4-6 Bf109G-10s.

Tempest is a perk plane and therefore not even in the game as far as I'm concerned.

[Buzzbait]

S!

Nice to hear about the Trains, road systems and Convoys.  I think that will add a strategic level which has been lacking.

Big step forward.

As far as the aircraft additions:

P-51H:  Shouldn`t be there.  Not a WWII aircraft.

Me262:  Good addition to the late war plane set which exists now.

Hurricane IIC:  A likely scenario plane, well matched with Spit V, Me109F4, MC202, Ju88.  May surprise some people if a good pilot is flying.  Those guns not to be trifled with.  But not really competitive in the MA.  Seems to be starting the extension of a possible rolling plane set to `42.  A logical  followup would be the A6M2, P-40M, P-39N, Lagg-3, Yak-1 or Mig-3, plus perhaps a Betty, Wellington, B-25 and He-111.  One of my own favourites, but I`ll likely die a lot.  Good thing about the Hurri IIC, it provides an earlier model Carrier based aircraft for the Brits.  The Sea Hurricane II was essentially identical to the Hurri IIC.  The original plane`s undercarriage was very sturdily built so nothing other than tail hooks had to be added.  Hopefully it will be carrier enabled.

[R4M]

Karnak:

While I can more or less understand your feelings, I think you haven't given it a second thought.

Since I first came to AH, I have heard yells to add early war planes. Since I first came to AH I've heard LOT of voices calling for a Hurricane in Aces High.

You got a new early-to medium war plane. You got the hurricane. And this is the way you celebrate it?...

You say that with the adition of the Me262 the Main Arena will get faster. I doubt the Me262 will cost less than 200 perkies. I would be REALLY surprised if it was under 150 perkies. It's not going to be a widely seen plane. And in any case the MA is fast enough without the Me262...

In the interview With Pyro I dont see anywhere the P51H mentioned. IMO is not a WWII plane but I dont care wether it is added or not, as it will be a MA-only plane (I dont see any possible CA scenario where it fitS) and I wont put a foot in the MA if I can avoid it.

Karnak you say that you dont want to enter the CA because you dont want to be vulched in a Seafire II against a G10. In hte two days I've been flying it I've seen more G6s in flight that what I've seen in many months in the MA (back when I flew it I mean <G> ). I think that the most used 109 in the CA is the G2, not the G10. What is me, I still have to put a hand on a 1944 plane in the CA. In 2 days I've flown 190A5s, 109G2s, 109G6s, Ju88s...but not a single sortie in 190F8, 190A8 nor 109G10.

In the CA, with the current map (and when the 500feet bar dar gets fixed), the Mosquito, one of your favorite planes, will make a great NOE fighterbomber/attack plane, way better than anything the LW has (until we get a Me410 of course   ).

 You can organize low level long range strikes, and with the high Mosquito topspeed at low level (something like 340mph?) only a 190A8 or a 109G10 will catch you, and both planes are ----by no means---- the most used by the LW in that arena. And that if they spot you, no bar dar under 500 feet (when is fixed   ), and with 3K icons for enemies make spotting VERY difficult. You can't ask for a better arena where a mosquito can be used...

NOw we see that they add the Hurricane IIC. A Hurricane I can't be difficult to model after this , and same goes with a spit I... and when the germans get the Me110C and Bf109E4, (And if the italians get a G50 and MC200, way better) you could very well put a CA with a working RPS. on place.

Add that with 1.08 we will have TRAINS in the CA...I'm already dreaming with an english Channel map in the CA, with trains, convoys and all the stuff...

Look, one doesnt start to build buildings from the roof, but from the ground. Hurri II is a step towards early war. I see it as a good adittion. and one wich will be used to good effect in the CA.

Come on, they announced 2 new planes, that doesnt mean they are the ONLY planes to come ,right?  

And where is the P51H announced?

See ya in the CA  

[ 08-10-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

[ra]

Yeah Karnak, take a frikken pill.  Jeez.

ra

[Karnak]

RAM,

I was never one of those calling for the Hurricane.

At least the RAF now has the definate claim on most outdated fighter.  The Hurricane IIc is a 1940 fighter, hardly mid war.

I agree that the Mosquito would do alright in the CT, except that we don't have the Mosquito, we got the useless Hurricane IIc.

The CT could be good, but right now its just an arena to make the fans of German aircraft feel good about themselves while they whine about RAF aircraft even as they slaughter them.

I'm betting on 150 perk points for the Me262, and I think you'll see it a lot more than the Tempest, Ta152 and Ar234 combined.

I'm not quitting, but 3 versions and nothing interesting doesn't make me happy.

I might try the CT again in 4 or 5 months, but after last night I have no interest in it.

[zapkin]

Well after reading that interview I have to say that I may have been a bit wrong when I stated that it was not worth the 30 bucks a month. These people just keep improving the game. More and More. I am afraid I may have to eat my own words...if their is room in my mouth next to my foot. LOL

WTG HTC

[R4M]

Originally posted by Karnak:
The CT could be good, but right now its just an arena to make the fans of German aircraft feel good about themselves while they whine about RAF aircraft even as they slaughter them.
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I might try the CT again in 4 or 5 months, but after last night I have no interest in it.

Sad you didnt try it just 30 minutes ago. 20 vs 20, increadible immersion and fairly equal sides. I?ve been there for almost 5 hours in a row, flown Fw190A5 (three times) , Me109G2 (one time) ju88 (two times).

I've only seen 3 Fw190A8s and 2 or 3 me109G10s (that I know about) in all the time I've been in.

Extract your own conclusions   . But if you plan to stick with the MA, yes, better dont fly a Hurricane...nor any plane dated before 1942 for that matter (because the Bf109F can do nice things if well used).

Oh, almost forgot......Hurricane IICs were built up to 1944, AFAIK.....and indeed they were widely used in North AFrica until late 1942 (dunno about 1943, tho).

so that affirmation taht is a 1940 plane is quite wrong  .

[ 08-10-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

[Karnak]

RAM,

When I was in there it was just a bunch of 109s and 190s vulching Seafires.

Then Staga made a smart bellybutton remark to me about how RAF aircraft are easy.  Then I see that HTC has bent over backwards for the LW fans again and at the same time given the RAF an outdated POS.

Its a cumulation of things over the last week or so.

I am really sick of being insulted because I happen to like Spitfires.  I am sick of the elitism of the fans of certain aircraft in AH.

BTW, the P-51B or P-51D should be available in the CT as the Mustang MkIII or Mustang MkIV to escort the Lancasters.  That's what the British used for that, not Spitfire F.MkIXs.

[R4M]

I was doing before "smartass" comments in the CA about how nice did the dweebf...er...spitfires explode.  

That does not exclude the fact that tonight I got my prettythang kicked by spits no less than 4 times. And I got a nice answer about how well did the 190s burn  

IF you are to react this way to some #1 channel taunts directed to get a fun arena with a positive spirit...then Karnak, really get a thicker skin. Because you are, really losing a fun time in the CA.

And, if you think that a Fw190A8 or a 109G2/G6 stands ANY chance against a well-flown Spitfire IX (other than running like hell)... oh well.

The spitfire IX is a very good plane, able to beat 109G2, 109G6 and 190A8. It is almost equally matched to the 190A5. And the 109G10 holds the advantage over it, yet it has a hard tim dealing with it.

The tiffies (the 1944 version we have in AH) can beat the better planes the LW has unperked in the CA, even a 109G10.

Even the Doras are way off being the threat the Tempests are, but admittedly a tempest costs twice as many perks as a dora.

do as you want, I wont try to convince you anymore   But I think that you dont want to look the things as they are, just as you WANT them to look like.

[ 08-10-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

[SOB]

Originally posted by Karnak:
Then Staga made a smart bellybutton remark to me about how RAF aircraft are easy.  Then I see that HTC has bent over backwards for the LW fans again and at the same time given the RAF an outdated POS.

Karnak, at first I almost felt bad that the game was going in a bad direction for you, but now you're just getting rediculous.

HTC are adding a couple of great planes and all you can do is whine and squeak about it.  Not the planes you wanted?  Sorry, but good god, knock off the whining man.

The Hurricane IIc an outdated POS?  To me it looks like a great TnBer with 4 powerful cannons.  What the hell is so bad about that?

HTC bending over backwards for the LW crowd?  Guess what, they're not the only ones who think the ME-262 is a cool new addition.  This plane will be a fun diversion every so often when perk points allow...I have no doubt that this thing will be expensive as hell.  In Pyro's words "The Ultimate Perk"

Hell, I'm not even sure what you have to be disappointed about with this news or even what the heck you were expecting.  You said in the other thread that you don't know of any British plane that can be competitive with the current planeset and not be a perk ride.  All that has changed with this new news is that there is a new British plane (competitive or not) and a new PERK jet that will, in all probability, be seen even less in the main arena then the Tempest.

As for elitist tards who think it makes them special to fly a certain aircraft, screw 'em.  They obviously don't feel special enough in thier real life and need to placate their ego here in a game.

Respectfully...as I could be,


SOB