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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2002, 06:38:36 PM »
Hangtime FYI I believe Japan is something like 99.6% "Japanese".

I hope you you leftist diversity nuts take that hard...

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2002, 06:46:42 PM »
Well they are on an island for Gods sake and they did have trouble invading (Korea vs Japan) each other before modern times. Yeah, the world is full of strange people and they do strange things.

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2002, 06:54:28 PM »
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Why wouldn't you visit? Sounds like a very interesting place.


It may very well be an interesting place, but I prefer to get my revisionist history from the democratic party :p

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2002, 09:26:45 PM »
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lol on the "well worth not-nuking" thing...but I am curious about the comment regarding the Vietnamese.  Where did you experience this?  In Vietnam?  Not judging you, or the comment...just curious.  I haven't experienced this at all...and I'm married to one.;)


I managed the production line for a company owned by a Vietnamese immigrant. I would estimate about 60% of our 200 employees were also Vietnamese. All of the VN managers were arrogant jerks. Most of the employees were very nice and loved talking about their country.

It was pretty cool being the tallest person in the company by a good 5 inches though.
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2002, 09:50:31 PM »
Doubt the Japanese could be much more racist than this tread.

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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2002, 09:53:54 PM »
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Doubt the Japanese could be much more racist than this tread.


Agreed! Did you see what MT posted?

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2002, 09:55:47 PM »
Did I say something racist?

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2002, 10:22:18 PM »
Yep, you used racist codewords....

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2002, 12:13:32 AM »
All of the Japanese people I have met have been very nice.

My study partner in my German language class was a Japanese national.  I never got any sense that she was condecending towards me or other Americans.

Japan was, as of the mid-90s, the single biggest donor nation in the world.  They donated more money than the USA even though the USA's GNP was, what, 5 times the Japanese GNP.

While I obviously don't know him, Mitsu seems like a genuinely nice fellow.


Yes, there is ingrained racisim in the Japanese national character, but Hangtime blows it way, way out of proportion.  He also makes the mistake of assigning it to all Japanese people.  Many, perhaps the majority, Japanese people are not racist.  To so blackly condemn an entire people is abhorant and blatantly more racist than anything post-war Japan has done.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2002, 12:49:01 AM »
I admit freely i am hugely biased in regards to the japanese. I have met many many asians; and not just in passing, I've had many dealings with quite a number of japanese folks in the process of doing my job and at one time during service to my country.. I do not harbor ill will towards any asain people.. but I have no warm feelings at all for japanese culture or society.

I have never been mistreated or insulted by a japanese... in english. My dating a japanese girl in japan ruined her.. literally. What she endured.. a Japanese, by god; just for being in my presence, under my escort as my companion is beyond belief.

Again.. I stand by my words;  As far as i am aware there exists nowhere on this planet a more racist, intolerant and hateful towards outsiders society than japan's. A fair term to describe their attutude towards racial impurity is 'rabid'.
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2002, 01:01:13 AM »
By the way would you liberals consider somebodys opionon of the USA in the 1960s as being a racist society, a racist statement?  Maybe also South Africa?

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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2002, 03:25:44 AM »
GRUNHERZ,

I can't actually make out a question in that gibberish.

If you're asking if I (as a Liberal) would consider somebody a racist in the 1960s for describing the US the way Hangtime described Japan, the answer is no.

Here is why:

The US is not a race, therefore it is not possible to be racist against it.

What I would consider them is abhorantly biased and guilty of judging a great diverse nation on only the basis of its worst aspects while completely ignoring the plethora of wonderful and good things about it.  I would consider their opinion as garbage.


South Africa is a different case.  Post-war Japan (The only Japan I am talking about here) is in no way comparable to South Africa.  Racism in South Africa was so deeply imbedded in the laws (not just the underlying culture) as to make any comparison with post-war Japan or the USA of the 1950s and 60s laughable.  There are no racial laws in Japan that I am aware of, and everybody in the USA in the 50s and 60s was enfranchised (even if there were unpleasant hurdles to exercising that right in some locations).
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2002, 07:22:08 AM »
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All of the VN managers were arrogant jerks. Most of the employees were very nice and loved talking about their country.
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Ahhh...here is the problem.  It isn't a Vietnamese thing...it is the age old manager vs. worker issue...blue collar vs. white collar.  Or, to put it another way...right wing radical racists vs. pinko leftist commie workers. (or liberals);)
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2002, 08:20:30 AM »
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Ahhh...here is the problem.  It isn't a Vietnamese thing...it is the age old manager vs. worker issue...blue collar vs. white collar.  Or, to put it another way...right wing radical racists vs. pinko leftist commie workers. (or liberals);)


You are probably correct, except that this leftist commie was also in management. I always felt like the (not sure what the word for gringo would be in Vietnamese).  

I did learn how to pronounce Nguyen properly tho    :D .

And the food was very good.

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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2002, 08:40:18 AM »
I studied with several Japanese exchange students while at uni. I even had two living on my corridor. They were cool, decent people. Friendly and with an outrageous sense of dress, there was no ill-feeling towards us. I think that the modern Japanese people share very little in common with the bastards running the POW camps, in the same way modern Germans share very little with the bastards running the concentration camps.

Also, I’ve friends who are teaching English in Japan and they are loving it. Not once have they mentioned any negative reaction to them – in fact it’s been positive all the way. They don’t want to come back.