Almost 200 kills with a P-40E

[Voss]

I think your choice of the P-40 is a good one, and probably serves you well.

However, checking your score I find you have 52 kills in the P40E. DO you have a second account, or are you adding tours together?

I have an inkling that the mediocre planes are more capable of delivering perks and kills/time then some of the 'better' planes that are more often times flown.

'Learn one plane, learn it well' is a motto to take to heart.

Keep up the good work.

[fffreeze220]

originally posted by toad
Can there be any passionate FW-190D9 flyers out there?

I am. I hatew it this tour but i stick with it cause i love it.

[thrila]

MiniD, how has flying the p40 generated a respect for the LW types?  Are you saying the planes they fly are poor or they have more passion than someone else?  Why do you respect LW types more than someone dedicated to the RAF planest (i.e. me) or any other planeset.    You sure you're not a closet Luftweenie?


give 'em hell, Toad.

[gofaster]

200 kills in the P-40E is impressive.  I flew it for a couple of weeks, along with the FM-2 and Dauntless, and decided I wasn't good enough to be competitive in it.  My teammates were counting on my to do my duty to the best of my ability, and the P-40E was too much of a handicap.  Maybe I'll go back to it next time I'm up and see if I can manage my energy better.

[AvidMC]

Right on MiniD!!!! Congrats on the kills in the plane you love to fly. And I couldn't agree more with you on comments about the reason one picks a ride. I spend 90% of my time in a Jug as that is the plane that I love. There are plenty of times that I get waxed because of it, but when I land a multi kill sortie in a jug I know it was because of what I did, not what the FM did.

    Now for you Spit, Niki and LA7 drivers that are winding up to tell me I am full of it....Go fly a jug or a P-40 or some other non baby raping plane for a tour and then, and only then, will I gave a damn about what you have say.

Avid

[Turbot]

Originally posted by Mini D
I might be able to get my 200th kill in a P-40E by the end of the week.  I fly it because I've always liked it and I don't really care about its overall performance.  I know it was something of a pig in WWII.

The dogfights in this plane have been incredible.  I've lost quite a few, but I've also one suprisingly more than I thought I would in this plane. (and I'm not that good of a pilot)

I wonder why more people don't follow their heart when selecting aircraft and chose instead to go with the highest performing planes.

Flying the P-40E since it came out has almost generated a respect for the LW types.  Having some sort of passion for the planes you fly seems to make a real difference.

MiniD

WTG MiniD, I have great respect for people who don't take the easy way - and p40 sure isn't a La7!

[Fatty]

A lot of us fly early war, and enjoy it.  We enjoy it because there are so many late war planes in the arena, so please stop discouraging them.

[Toad]

Originally posted by Mini D
But if you like the P-51 simply because its the fastest plane in the arena then... you get the point.

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The point being you'd be wrong, because it isn't?

Or the point being you're a dweeb for picking an uber ride you are not passionate about?

Originally posted by Mini D
I'm just asking people to avoid one extreme end of the spectrum.

MiniD

Well, maybe you should help them, the "majority" out. You know, draw a line for them. Maybe make a list or something so they'll know what's ok to fly.

" These are lower performance/non-uber that you will love and be loved for flying.

THESE[/u] are high performance/uber/extreme performance aircraft that you should not fly unless you can submit proof from three different sources showing that you have always loved this aircraft since an early age and are passionate about it. Flying these without such proof is definitely frowned upon."

It can be tough. Like, where does the Spit V and Spit IX fit in? Certainly not "uber" in book performance but true arena killers, especially in the right hands. A few guidelines might be a good thing.

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[Mini D]

Toad you are acting defensive when there is no need.

I haven't said any rides are uber.  I haven't said anyone is a dweeb for flying a particular plane.

You used to have a have a line in your sig file that went something to the effect of "fly what you like, like what you fly."  Think about that just a little more.

I'm not trying to define apropriate plane selection or behavior.  I haven't labeled anyone and won't.  I'll continue to ask people to consider more than just performance when selecting their aircraft.

I fly a plane that I've always loved with little consideration for anything else.  That has made AH a better game for me.

MiniD

[Nifty]

threads like these make me want to fly the N1K2 and La7.  

That or make me want NOT want to fly certain planes so I don't get the stigma of being a snobby elitist.  

[gofaster]

Originally posted by Toad


Is it OK to have a passion for a high performing aircraft? Or would that be "verboten"?



BTW, I like the P-40 as well.. think I like the Wildcat better though.

A fella named Toad has almost 60 kills in an FM-2, and about 20 in a P-51D.  I wouldn't exactly call the FM-2 a high performing aircraft.  Its the "Civic of street racing" in Aces High.  Handles great, turns on a dime, but gets blown away in the quartermile by the local Mustangs.

So why act all defensive because a guy can actually bag 200 kills in an aircraft that's rich in romantic notions of dogfighting, but is otherwise outclassed by other planes?

[gofaster]

Originally posted by Nifty
threads like these make me want to fly the N1K2 and La7.  

That or make me want NOT want to fly certain planes so I don't get the stigma of being a snobby elitist.  

You snobby elitists in your PT Boats make me sick!

[Mini D]

Why is it that a scene from Monty Python's "Holy Grail" is coming to mind?  "I'm being opressed! I'm being opressed!"

I'm not trying to say "I fly a crappy plane and can still kick your ass."  People that do that are still using performance to determine ride selection.  I've seen that in the MA and posted here too.  A "what real men fly" kind of thing.

I'm questioning motivation, not manhood.

I'm not out to prove that a crappy aircraft can survive.  I'm pleasantly suprised by it.  I'm out to win every engagement I enter, but I don't believe that I should change my ride simply to increase my success rate or fly an "inferior" plane to prove myself or to provide an excuse for my loss.  I'll not say "ya, nice kill against a P-40 in your Mustang" after a death to a mustang.  I'll not say "Nice bounce alt monkey DORA!" after getting blasted by by a Dora .  What I fly is not an excuse and what you fly is not a reason for me needing an excuse.

The P-40 can do well in the MA.  The fact that I am successful in one proves that.  I can't lay claim to being an above average skilled pilot.  It makes me wonder how well other aircraft could do in the MA... aircraft that people don't want to try because they are too slow or don't turn well.  I guess its simply about what people choose not to fly as opposed to what they choose to fly.  I don't think alot of aircraft are given a fair chance by people that would really rather be flying them.

MiniD

[Fatty]

You're not Mini D, it's the followup spit/niki/la7 jabs from people that fly late-midwar planes pretending they're flying serious underdog planes that are the hypocrits that get under my skin.

[Creamo]

fatty