Author Topic: More reparation nonsense (Read 3347 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #75 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:03:58 AM »

Midnight, should we give the Irish some reparations while we're at it? Who's next? Maybe the Polish for the jokes we pained them thru?

midnight Target · « **Reply #76 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:06:04 AM »

Canada and Australia have had their own share.....

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In 1988, Congress apologized to Japanese Americans interned in camps during World War II and authorized payments of $20,000 each to roughly 60,000 survivors. Canada followed with its own apology and a $230 million reparations package to Japanese Canadians. All of the sudden, the notion of winning reparations for black Americans didn't seem so crazy.

Research revealed other examples of reparations. The German government has paid $60 billion to settle claims from victims of Nazi persecution. Various groups of Eskimos, Native Americans, Aleuts and survivors of a 1923 massacre in a predominantly black Florida town have also received restitution--combined, more than $1 billion. In Australia, the government has apologized for its treatment of Aborigines after an official inquiry called it genocide. Compensation is being negotiated.

This didn't start with the Japanese.

gofaster · « **Reply #77 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:06:33 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
We should send em back to africa where black people treat each other with dignity and respect. ....

See the history of Liberia, established during the presidency of James Monroe.

midnight Target · « **Reply #78 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:08:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Midnight, should we give the Irish some reparations while we're at it? Who's next? Maybe the Polish for the jokes we pained them thru?

Are you suggesting that the Irish and the Poles had JUST AS MUCH to overcome? Paaleeez!

midnight Target · « **Reply #79 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:10:20 AM »

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Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley put the gains of whites from labor market discrimination--just from 1929 to 1969--at $1.6 trillion in present-day dollars.

gofaster · « **Reply #80 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:15:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
It seems that some people are forgetting that it's not the black peoples fault they were made slaves.

Yes it is. Slaves from Africa were people captured through wars with other black tribes and nomadic North Africans, then transported to the western coast for trade as property. White people didn't venture into the interior during that period of time just to capture slaves. If they did, it was for exploration for ivory, diamonds, or other raw materials that were easier to obtain and transport. Therefore, it was a slave's fault he was a slave because he wasn't strong enough to resist his enemies.

Look beyond the high-school American history books and you'll get a better understanding of how the world worked prior to the Civil War.

Thrawn · « **Reply #81 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:20:25 AM »

Let me rephrase. It's not the black slaves fault, that they were slaves.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #82 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:20:59 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target

Are you suggesting that the Irish and the Poles had JUST AS MUCH to overcome? Paaleeez!

By what measurement are you using as a standard of "overcoming" ?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #83 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:23:31 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley put the gains of whites from labor market
discrimination--just from 1929 to 1969--at $1.6 trillion in present-day dollars.

LOL! Berkeley! ROTFLOL!!!

Eagler · « **Reply #84 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:28:17 AM »

allowing RAP on the airwaves is enough "reparations"

this reparation crap is just another ploy for a poor excuse of a leader to be elected/empowered by a poor excuse of a human being

Mighty1 · « **Reply #85 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:35:10 AM »

If anyone can prove I owned a Black person then I will be gald to pay. Till then STFU and get a job you lazy whinney bellybutton no good MFers!!!

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #86 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:36:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler

I'm all for slavery reparations. We went to their lands and stole them away from their family and friends. I say our "slavery reparations" is a one way ticket back to the land of plenty- mother Africa, complete with tigers and lions & a funny looking green, red and black striped hat.

get a life, get a job and stop looking for a hand out!

Uh...Eagler, are you aware that the average African American citizen can trace his roots back in America 400 years? Did you know that the average European American can trace their lineage in America back only 200 years? So, uh- since "they" were here first, maybe WE should all get a one way ticket back to Europe.

And Gofaster is right. If those Africans didn't want to become slaves they should have run faster. It's their own damn fault they werre enslaved, seperated from parents, spouces and children and otherwise brutalized.

midnight Target · « **Reply #87 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:38:04 AM »

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Originally posted by gofaster

Yes it is. Slaves from Africa were people captured through wars with other black tribes and nomadic North Africans, then transported to the western coast for trade as property. White people didn't venture into the interior during that period of time just to capture slaves. If they did, it was for exploration for ivory, diamonds, or other raw materials that were easier to obtain and transport. Therefore, it was a slave's fault he was a slave because he wasn't strong enough to resist his enemies.

Look beyond the high-school American history books and you'll get a better understanding of how the world worked prior to the Civil War.

The fact that there were Black collaberators in the slave trade doesn't diminish the issue at all. There were Jewish collaborators in the Holocaust too. This doesn't diminish the horrific nature of that crime.

midnight Target · « **Reply #88 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:39:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Mighty1
If anyone can prove I owned a Black person then I will be gald to pay. Till then STFU and get a job you lazy whinney bellybutton no good MFers!!!

ROFL.... case dismissed. The Might have spoken.

gofaster · « **Reply #89 on:** August 19, 2002, 10:42:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Let me rephrase. It's not the black slaves fault, that they were slaves.

Yes, it is. If they had resisted their tribal enemies better, or been able to thwart the attacks of the North Africans, then they wouldn't have been slaves in the first place. If the Knights had been successful, we wouldn't have lost NDIsles last night. Can I claim some perk points as reparation for oppression by the Bishops?

As far as I know, the US stopped transporting slaves when it became illegal to do so.

The funny thing about land is, there's a finite amount of it. So if the US gov't awarded land, where would it come from? Who would get dibs on Yosemite? The Grand Canyon? The federal timber reserves in the northwest?

On the other hand, who would claim their acreage in the badlands of Oklahoma? The abandoned nuclear test sites in New Mexico?

The other side of the coin: why should we, as a taxpayers, pay for the crimes of our ancestors? How many blacks can stand up and say "yeah, toting those bails of cotton with a whip at my back was hard!"? My grandfather worked for the railroad. My father was an attorney. We didn't own slaves. We didn't even have a farm. My other grandfather was a farmer, but too poor to even hire help. He didn't own slaves, either.

At best, this is a publicity ploy by Louis Farrakhan. At worst, its an attempt by a select few to grab the treasures of the many. The US gov't doesn't generate its own wealth - its wealth comes from the taxpayers. Louis wants your money!