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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2002, 10:44:41 AM »
What's with all the "I'M NOT GOING TO PAY!" chit??  Who the hell asked you to??  I imagine that they would get the governments, institutions, slave owners that are still alive (none) and companies, that supported and profitted from slavery to pay.

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« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2002, 10:46:40 AM »
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What's with all the "I'M NOT GOING TO PAY!" chit??  Who the hell asked you to??  I imagine that they would get the governments, institutions, slave owners that are still alive (none) and companies, that supported and profitted from slavery to pay.


When a company is asked to pay, who actually pays Thrawn?

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« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2002, 10:49:23 AM »
I wasn't responsible for it, the people who are asking for it are not, and were not, slaves.

I do not owe them anything, nor are they owed anything but an equal chance at creating a living for themselves, period!  Lump sump pay-off money does not accomplish this in the slightest.

My father-in-law came to this country without speaking a word of English and 2 young kids (at that time).  He was discriminated against, but still was able to accomplish the following without any handouts---

1.)Found gameful employment even though that meant walking to and from work (he couldn't afford a car at that time).

2.)Eventually bought the business he was working for.

3.)Eventually bought the 6-family apartment house he used to be a rentor in.

4.)Eventually purchased other rental property in the same area.

5.)Put all 3 of his daughters through college and set 1 daughter up in her own business (I didn't marry that one...doh! :) ).

6.)Sold his business and retired early.

He did this because he wasn't going to wait for someone to hand it to him.  Nor should he have expected that.

Immigrants from all nations come to this country and do very well indeed.  They are discriminated against as well.  They do so, because the opportunity is here and they take advantage of the opportunity, not looking in the past and blaming their ills on things that no longer apply in the force it did in the past.  

The ills may still slightly linger, but look at it....who has the most vested interest in making it linger....Jackson, Farahkan, Sharpton, etc.  This is THEIR money ticket.  It pays for these few to keep the pot stirred.  Without this, they become irrelevant, and they know it.  It is in THEIR agenda to keep tension between the races, or else the gravy train will end for them.

I don't buy this hand-wringing crap.  You can't seriously tell me that opportunity does not exist for the african-american.  It does for the immigrant from India, Pakistan, Taiwan, Vietnam, Korea, Europe, etc.

Cobra

**Edit--BTW, please don't let that stop anyone from voluntarily writing a personal check to this fund.  In fact, please do, give this fund your live savings for all I care.  I would think with all of Thrawn's hand-wringing, he will immediately setup a portion of his weekly check.  That way he can really help instead of just typing self-righteous indignation crap on a BBS where it doesn't mean toejam.  

Just don't expect that I will be mandated into doing this.  It sucked, it shouldn't have happened, and it was wrong.  Guess what.....life is wrong sometimes, and good intentions WELL AFTER the fact won't change that.

Cash pay-offs never change that.  Making sure race dies as an issue will cure that.  That will truly be pay-back for those who suffered long ago.  What better legacy can we, or they, have then to truly make race a non-issue.   Money in the form of pay-off doesn't accomplish this in the slightest.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2002, 11:06:18 AM by Cobra »

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« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2002, 10:52:05 AM »
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When a company is asked to pay, who actually pays Thrawn?


Bingo.  Right on the nose.

By the way, for those seeking their 40 acres, I hear there's some zoned, developed land, with full utilities, ready for new construction available in the Bronx, south central Los Angeles, the bad side of Chicago, sections of Detroit, urban Miami, Dallas, Trenton, Bridgeport, and Washington DC.  Proof of slavery oppression required.

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« Reply #94 on: August 19, 2002, 10:52:26 AM »
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When a company is asked to pay, who actually pays Thrawn?


It's my understanding they plan to confinscate all the BMWs in North America and give them to African Americans. This seems more than fair to me.

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« Reply #95 on: August 19, 2002, 11:04:25 AM »
By that logic no one should be allowed to sue companies.

LOL!!

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« Reply #96 on: August 19, 2002, 11:04:36 AM »
thrawn... tell you what.. When limey land pays back all the peoples it has wronged over the last 400 years or so then we will start talking about  blacks in the U.S. with you.   Yeah... reparations are fine so long as it is only the U.S. that has to pay em eh?  

and it is a foggy little isle that is becoming smaller and less relevant all the time.

and no... I don't think we should have paid reparations to the japanesse.   I  can't imagine them doing so if the situation were reversed.  
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« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2002, 11:06:40 AM »
"The other side of Roman decadence was the dole. Millions spent on bread (including pork by the end of the second century) and circuses for the non-working poor. "
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2002, 11:06:59 AM »
Lazs, are you stupid or illiterate?  For the second time, I'm not a brit.

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« Reply #99 on: August 19, 2002, 11:16:28 AM »
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Lazs, are you stupid or illiterate?  For the second time, I'm not a brit.


If you aren't a Brit then why are your teeth so bad????

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« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2002, 11:16:31 AM »
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Lazs, are you stupid or illiterate?  For the second time, I'm not a brit.


So theres an Atlantic ocean difference, what of it? :D

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« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2002, 11:19:48 AM »
Once Again.

There are plenty of living breathing Black American citizens who have had property and or opportunity withheld or taken from them over the years WITH THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNMENT. What about them?

If the Government takes your house, do you expect payment? If the police break in and burn it down ... by accident, do you expect to be reimbursed? If you were kicked out of college for no good reason, would you just shrug your shoulders and shuffle along?


:rolleyes:

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« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2002, 11:22:25 AM »
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Once Again.

There are plenty of living breathing Black American citizens who have had property and or opportunity withheld or taken from them over the years WITH THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNMENT. What about them?

If the Government takes your house, do you expect payment? If the police break in and burn it down ... by accident, do you expect to be reimbursed? If you were kicked out of college for no good reason, would you just shrug your shoulders and shuffle along?


:rolleyes:


So we pay every black american for a few that had this happened to? Sounds reasonable...not.

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« Reply #103 on: August 19, 2002, 11:22:50 AM »
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Lazs, are you stupid or illiterate?  For the second time, I'm not a brit.


You're not an American black slave, either.

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« Reply #104 on: August 19, 2002, 11:23:39 AM »
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If you aren't a Brit then why are your teeth so bad????


In order to understand the beaver better, I've taken to nawing on trees.

Jeez, we aren't even in Yurop.