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Offline marauder

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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2002, 07:12:06 AM »
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If you turned bombsight calibration mode off then how would you calibrate your bombsight ?

If you turned calibration mode off and then went to go bomb a target in a bomber you would simply bomb the way we used to in Aces High version 1.09 patch 2 and earlier.
That was: Hit F6 to go to Bomb Sight view, Keypad 0 to look down, Z to zoom in, O to open bomb bay doors, and B to drop... remember?
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2002, 07:44:48 AM »
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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2002, 07:56:04 AM »
the calibration shouldn't be dumbed down, just improved a little. what innominate said:

 "The bombsight should have readouts for salvo, delay, and drop airspeed, and current airspeed. Readouts so we can tell when the conditions change after calibrating."

also please fix the damage bug with the drones
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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2002, 11:05:52 AM »
I say keep it.  

Yet is could use improvment and tweaks.  Its the first version of it and it can only improve.

How about an Auto Calibrate, sort of like Combat Trim, Auto Takeoff and Auto climb.  Another tool to aid pilots.   What I am thinking is this...

You go to the Norden sight.  Instead of trying to move your joystick around to find the magic spot during calibration,  You push a Big red button (whatever key on the keyboard) and it sets your calibration.   Now if you change heading, Alt, Speed your calibration is still screwed up.  

All Bombs still have drift and spread. wind still affects things and accuracy is down.   It still wouldnt allow "Laser" (said like Dr Evil) Bombing.

I think the calibration is tricky depending on the joystick you own, If it spikes, or has a very tight throw, its hard to get your crosshairs on the magic spot.  A well done Calibration Aid would be a nice feature.

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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2002, 11:47:20 AM »
keep it like it is. it is easy to do with practice. I rarely fly bombers but can hit a target . Escorts are the key to making it to target. that i see is not done very oftenin MA . Break away form the fur BAll once in a while and fly escort duty. you will see action also. with the right fighter coverage and the right target it can be done even in MA. But that is my thoughts alone. I would like more realism in all areas of game. but then it is what i would like. I wish I could parachute out of C47 and have ground assaults too. would be cool to hide in bunker waiting for enemy troops to take it and gun them down...lol kidding ,

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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2002, 01:50:41 PM »
I want to keep calibration.  I am gradually reaching the point that I can reliably hit something (like a hangar.)

Look at it from this point of view:  Would you like a switch that would  permit all participants to fly fighters as well as Drex?  Not me!

I like buffs that require practice.  Think about it .. if Drex ups a b17, he's harmless so far as bombs go. :)  Before calibration showed up, any pilot could jump in a buff and knock down hangars (even Drex.)  Not any more. :)

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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2002, 02:20:29 PM »
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Well Ramair you are 1 of 2 FOR the option to toggle off the Calibration Bombsight so far; so you meant to vote "YAY", correct?


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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2002, 03:01:10 PM »
Let it stay as is.....


until I get killed over the target fiddling around on the bomb run...then it should frikken GO! :D

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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2002, 05:17:27 PM »
Time for a "Relaxed Realism Arena" perhaps.Let them have the old bomb site back so they can obliterate airfiled ords with a 30k Lancaster.Give us in the "Full Realism Arena" level bombing targets/strat,reduced icon range and other FM tidbits.
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2002, 05:42:27 PM »
Reduced icon range is less realistic, not more.

If icons could disappear when aircraft are within 1000 yards, but be present from 1000 to 6000 yards that would be best.  Icons are needed to supply the information that pilots would have in reality but that the game cannot.  Once the aircraft are close enough to provide some semblance of the information that our eyes would provide us with in reality icons are not needed.

Simply shortening the icon range is about the least realistic thing that can be done as it sets up a situation in which we have no info at medium ranges where we would in reality and have way too much information at close range because of the red billboards that identify the enemy with a split second glance.
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2002, 06:21:33 PM »
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calibration should stay...
and i think comat trim should be deactivated after a certain score is reached..in fighters..


u gona send me  $500 for controls so i have them on a flight stick?


CT allows me (confined to wheelchair, no use of legs) to not need the rudder so much, or to go out n buy a throttle/stick setup so that i have 4 zillion buttons at finger tips.

CT doesnt give me an advantage, it just puts me on par somewhat with manual trimmers. pilots of equal skill in equal planes, pilot with manual trim should win every fight. cause manual trim gives him advantage.


maybe if CT goes away with high score, maybe should limit
high scorers to early war planes, since late war planes givem
too much over others? hehe see, can of worms.

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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2002, 06:24:45 PM »
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Originally posted by marauder

If you turned calibration mode off and then went to go bomb a target in a bomber you would simply bomb the way we used to in Aces High version 1.09 patch 2 and earlier.
That was: Hit F6 to go to Bomb Sight view, Keypad 0 to look down, Z to zoom in, O to open bomb bay doors, and B to drop... remember?


ok, have option to turn of Calib, BUT ! no Calib, salvo defualts to entire bomb load dropped at 1 time, delay defualt to .05, unchangeable for both.

u wana salvo seperate bombs, u gotta calibrate.


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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2002, 07:35:29 PM »
It occurs to me (again and again, over and over) that I dont have a problem using the calibration feature and getting good results.  My problem with flying heavies is its too damned quick and easy to get killed.  Conversely, I can do a generally smack up job killing three ship formations.  Just get the leading bastard and as he fumbles around trying to get back into guns in the second ship he already dead.  Then as he tries to get into the third and final ship and then getting into a gun position then reaquiring the target hes already dead a third time.  Yup, thats it for me.  The calibration thing has NOTHING to do with why I generally dont fly heavie three ships.  Its too damned easy to get killed.  Im sure of it :)
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2002, 08:52:48 PM »
YAY! Bomb calibration was one of the best things that Hitechs ever done! ...I stink at it, but I like it and its much more historically accurate.... but unfortunitly I have noticed a GREAT bomber decrease in Population, something should be done to make ppl want to fly bombers more, like making bombs more powerfull maybe?

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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2002, 08:14:49 AM »
The only way to have any chance in MA on a bombing run is like in eal life back then. Bombers wee shot down all the time , They thought 60 B17's with all those 50 cal's could do the trick. Till they were butchered up by fighters, tll they ahd fighter escorts. How many people do you see in MA that will escort a bomber when not in mission. I look at map for distant bases with one Icon going up . and watch it. after while you can almost tell it is a bomber. i just find a base close enough to intercept it, get it and then go back to where I was. I know alot of people like to fur ball some like to team up , some want to win reset some want to go for points and score. some like to bomb, but As i found out in The real army team work wins, if you keep it a game then this is fine. but if you want to think this is a real world thing. It will never happen with out team work. In bomb runs you need escorts they needed it then (ww2) . we have alot of bomberr squads i seen in bbs,  My score will always suck cause if i see someone in trouble i will assist even if i get downed. I will hang near a goon or bomber if i can, it is how i was trained and some time it leaks out in game and i forget it is a game. people whine about what plane shoots what plane down.. remember. those planes were made to shoot those planes down. People cry about P51's and LA7, and such, well it was thier job to kick bellybutton and send the germans and the japanese to hell for real. And of course we have some very good virtual pilots in here that i think do some great flying in this game. And every once in a while i get them too.. So guys if you really want to win, teaming up to help once in a while will not hurt but help sometimes,  I hate to bomb for this reason only, I take off fly for 35 minutes to target, Get almost there then two planes takeoff then within 5 minutes they are at my alt ganging on me , down I go , thinking if only i had a few escorts to distract them i could of hit target, (hopefully that is) . well this was after playing since jan, what i have seen, BUt love this game will still play it. And i like the SEA CT and squad nights when we fight together as one. And thanks to the ones that let me fly with them in TOD's and SEA's and to all the ones that have helped me out in MA when they checked six and/or took care of the one on my six to you all. and to my squad for a good bunch of Guys the 332nd Flying Mongrels...